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Supposedly buyers are already drying up, but this always starts in Florida McMansionVille, and hits places like rural NH last.

Then the counter-point is: Is it really that expensive? How many loafs of bread is this? How many eggs?

There's a world in which buying over-priced house on fixed rate credit is worth it, because you know that a decade from now median salary is going to be north of 150k.

I think that's conjecture for the sake of it. I don't care to argue the specifics. All I know if that it's getting harder to pay the bills and put food on the table. As such, I want every system leech's head on a pike. I despise filling empty air with self aggrandizing philosophical theses where animus works perfectly as a means to an end and requires much less fart huffing.

> I think that's conjecture for the sake of it. I don't care to argue the specifics.

Fair enough.

> As such, I want every system leech's head on a pike.

Printing money into worthlessness and importing cheap labor to bid down wages so as to "hide inflation", is a crime warranting bloodline termination.

That said, unless it's time to start shooting down private jets (BTW: clones of the Ukrainian Shahed-busters are on Alibaba), the question "is this house a decent decision" is still worth thinking about...
I don't know that market well enough to say you're wrong - but if 1 bedroom, 1 acre, needs work is going into the high 2's, then I should get the boomer award...

My dad sold a house a couple hours drive from there, 3 bedrooms, 3 acres, needs work, and AFAIK the number started with a 1...
These niggers base it on the location of the property, never the actual state of the house or what repairs it needs.

I know most new construction is shit. Ticky tacky slop assembled by the lowest bidding contractor; often meaning amigos larping as competent handyman assembled the home. At least here in the US. I could only ponder who European contractors use for their labor if they're not hiring the indigenous White people.

There's a development by Ryan Homes going up right off the highway north of me. I drive by it every day while at work. They will build two-story Matchstick houses in 2 weeks. People will be moved in by the third week. These aren't prefab houses either, they pour the foundation and then start putting the house on top of it the very next day. They're so ugly and so poorly made it's unreal. They're about 6 ft apart from each other and face directly into the sun. It's just gross

Typical of France is everything is kind of the same problems as the US, except not nearly as dire. It's kind of like "as bad as the US was in 2006".

Minimum wage in France is 14โ‚ฌ/hour, but there's enough payroll taxes that you're pretty much gonna end up spending 25/hour. So there really isn't any such thing as "cheap labor" to chase after.

What I've seen of construction workers is they're either French, Spanish, or Romanian.
@matty @spacemanspiff @travis4nh i found a 4bed 3bath place in northwest georgia for 135 the other day on 2.2 acres, who gives a fuck if there's jerbs near by, there's no naggers and there's outdoors stuff to do and i'll occupy my time just fine, really close to convincing the wife to cash out our retirements, sell our house and just fuckin move to a deflated market where no one wants to live

@dictatordave

separately, to anyone reading this with european ancestry - invoke it if you can, get citizenship, property is cheap in some EU countries (e.g. Italy).

politics aside, a lot of you here in the states want more socialism than you admit, like free healthcare, barely adequate as it may be. that's one avenue to it. there's no rule that says you have to stay in the USA. go to a place does doesn't have the demographic pressures (and here I men those meanie BOOMERS).

@travis4nh

@spacemanspiff @travis4nh zero fucking chance i move to that retarded commie super state of fuck heads
no thank you

giving up the ship in the us isn't an option, maybe for cucks with nothing and no vested interest in the future, ie childless losers, but i'm looking to build a safe place for my children to thrive away from the garbage of civilization
I expatriated to France but I would not move to Italy - even for those 1โ‚ฌ houses.

There's a catch (there's always a catch), their economy is in the shitter, tax rates are obscene (even by European standards), and unless you have an Italian father, step-father, godfather, etc, the state is basically going to treat you as an ATM.
France has all of its own troubles, but it's not really beholden to any other country. There's no equivalent to Israel for France.

And then what it really comes down to: The French system is not constantly trying to kill you, bankrupt you, poison you, and make your kids gay.

@The_Almighty_Kek

is it better or worse than paying more* to live in an apartment, gaining no equity, having no land, being subject to the whims of the landlord, being told what pets you can or can't have? that's up to you or any other individual. some people prefer not being responsible for property taxes, broken toilets, loose door knobs, roof repair, etc. and that's fine too.

* - how MUCH more is debatable and dependent on location, but likely more.

@travis4nh @Omega_Variant

@The_Almighty_Kek

would it be better if prices are lower?

if that affected no other levers, definitely yes.

if we took a full accounting of the domino effects, still probably yes.

what argument am I making and why is it retarded? you could weigh the pros and cons of buying a $175k cabin on > 1 acre of land versus renting, conclude it doesn't work for you, and there's no conflict with what I said.

what do you want? to pay less than everyone else? yeah, me too!

@travis4nh @Omega_Variant

I'm not debating renting versus owning. I own my house. I know it's favorable.

Is there any reason my house should be "worth" $250k now, even though I bought it for $160k less than a decade ago? I'm not making much more money now than I was back then and it doesn't sound like many people are. So why, if I were to move to a comparable home (within the same area) must my living expenses basically triple (when factoring in the difference in interest rates, tax jurisdiction, etc) for a lateral move? Property shouldn't increase at the rate it does, and it does at the hands of filthy hook nosed bagel niggers who deserve nothing less than Total Investor Death.

@The_Almighty_Kek

> Is there any reason my house should be "worth" $250k now, even though I bought it for $160k less than a decade ago?

yes, there is. you said "less than a decade." I'm going to guess 8 years.

$100 in 2018 is equal to about $133 today. do you disagree?

based on that alone, $160k in 2018 is $213k now.

that accounts for more than half the APPARENT increase. would you like to continue, or am I just a stupid goyslave or whatever?

@travis4nh @Omega_Variant