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the average person is a literal sex addict tbh. they genuinely suffer if they dont get their fix

@georgia it's almost like it's something we have to do to continue existing

@snacks reproducing and gooning are very different and its very possible to exist without sex

@georgia > its very possible to exist without sex
Ig if you're jesus

@georgia biologically speaking reproduction is just part of your lifecycle. You literally die if you don't do it

@snacks @georgia you also die if you do it

@lizzie @georgia biologically speaking, not really

@snacks @georgia i feel like youre conflating the species with the individual members. lots of species have lots of non-reproductive members. lots of people have been celibate

@lizzie @georgia your child is literally a cell of yours. If that's not you surviving then you die hundreds of times every day
I am arguing purely biologogically, trying to explain why sex drive is so strong usually

@snacks @lizzie @georgia this is one of the most braindead pseud takes on evolution and reproduction i've ever read. you can jerk off all you want, no one is stopping you. no need to come up with some post-hoc "scientific" rationalization for it.

@rowb1t @lizzie @georgia i have no idea why you all need to pretend there isnct a reason for sex drive

@snacks @georgia @rowb1t nobody has claimed sex drive doesnt tend to perpetuate itself. the question has been “must it rule over a human who can think and make decisions”

@lizzie @snacks @rowb1t exactly, a human being is above other animals in that we aren't a slave to every instinct. we can and should transcend the world of the senses. and in addition to that, I'd argue that the gooner is an unnatural product of ubiquitous pornography, not someone who is merely following instinct.

@georgia @lizzie @snacks @rowb1t while I totally agree with the last statement, the rest of the post is bullshit pseudo religion. We don't have to transcend anything, we need to cleanse and integrate the most layers of conscience on our experience.

@sathariel @lizzie @snacks @rowb1t the result of transcending the senses is conscious existence being cleansed. pratyahara is just a step to samadhi. anyway, believing in yoga or the perennial philosophy is not necessary for believing that hedonism is not a good way to live.

@georgia @lizzie @snacks @rowb1t I wasn't talking about hedonism, I was talking about the disadvantages of repression that were the source to create the conditions to the gooner porn addiction and other similar expressions. Think about the sages that realized that sex energy is something we have and it's powerful and beautiful, that is just different in manifestation than others form of energy, and that can be used instead of wasting it.

@sathariel @lizzie @snacks @rowb1t sex in left hand path tantra or in daoist sexual alchemy is controlled. porn and sex addiction and most masturbation is not controlled. I also think that the belief that pornography is fueled by sexual repression is a libertine take. if that were true sex addiction would be more common in conservative societies, not liberal ones.

@georgia @lizzie @snacks @rowb1t yeah cause catholic priests don't rape child, cause conservative politics don't masturbate to trans porn, cause our societies aren't results of centuries of imposed repressive education. I'm not arguing against control (when well understood the meaning of control), I'm arguing against repression.