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@cjd @Snidely_Whiplash @Bush

The Québecois were historically subordinated within much of Canada's political and economic order → the Quiet Revolution created a modern Quebec state and a much more assertive Quebec nationalism → Quebec increasingly exercised provincial powers and negotiated opt-outs from federal programs → Ottawa simultaneously adopted bilingualism and other accommodations in an attempt to keep Quebec within Canada (something they should have done from the very beginning of the founding of Canada to be fair).

And there is another irony in his “chokehold” description. From a sovereigntist Quebec perspective, the complaint has often been almost the reverse: Quebec sends taxation authority to Ottawa and then has to bargain to get money and jurisdiction back from Ottawa with conditions attached. Federalists and sovereigntists disagree radically about the implications, but neither serious interpretation really resembles “Canada gives Quebec infinite welfare.”

@Sovereign @Bush @Snidely_Whiplash @cjd The whole Distinct Society thing was a kludge, with provincial autonomy, bilingualism and protection of Catholic education, there to get an agreement to Confederation with the rest of the provinces at the time. Americans had to make deals and compromises of their own based on their own unique circumstance to create their country as well.

But the entire world has changed. And no doubt erasing Quebec and its people as a distinct nation is an important item on the globalist check list.

The Supreme Court ruling that Quebec cannot unilaterally separate from the rest of Canada when there is every intention to erase it makes the ruling absurd.

Hard choices ahead for everyone.

@cjd @Snidely_Whiplash @Sovereign @Bush Canada has the misfortune of having Quebec sort of just there, cutting it in half. If Quebec was off to one side somewhere, Yukon or whatever, my impression is there'd be a lot less concern about them doing their own thing and going their own way.

As White countries go, Canada is structurally one of the weakest. Canada wouldn't make sense being split in half by Quebec's exit, just as east and west Pakistan didn't work out.
You'd end up minimum with two successor states and the dam holding back separatism cracked.

Of course I think North America could be in for some border redrawing in the not distant future. It's not as if I think the United States is going to be a thousand year Keich either.