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"An attack on Kharg Island, however, would provide the media impact Trump is looking for. There would be no threat of FPV drone strikes from the mainland due to the distance, and the island itself is small (21 sq km) with a relatively limited Iranian military presence. "
HOLLY FUCK Does the us actually believe that? The shortest range iranian fpv drone has a range of 40-50kms. It can be launched from the iranian shore and reach every part of the island.

Trevor Goodchild

Yeah I read that and instantly discarded everything else he said. The island is a death trap and the IRGC is salivating at the chance to get wet

But, the Strait is an even worse option. Really 'Scylla and Charybdis' vibes

Sick Burn, Bro

that's assuming the invade it. What happens if the US just decides to destroy every piece of Iran's oil infrastructure

Trevor Goodchild

@cjd@pkteerium.xyz remote

Then Iran destroys every piece of oil and natgas infrastructure in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain . . . You get the picture

They are perfectly capable of doing this and have said/demonstrated as much

Caleb James DeLisle

Iran doesn't need oil infrastructure, and destroying GCC infra isn't in their interest. They can just switch to operating a toll booth, they don't need to produce any oil.

Sick Burn, Bro

@BroDrillard@nicecrew.digital remote

as I've mentioned before, I don't think the world is keen on Iran doing a mafia tactic on the globe and will look the other way if a bigger bully roughs them up.

BroDrillard

The US is not doing all that great with the roughing up.

Iran will give a sweetheart deal to China. What anybody else can do about it?

Sick Burn, Bro

@BroDrillard@nicecrew.digital remote

Iran was already giving China a sweetheart deal. As to what can be done about it - at this point, lots of things.

It's obvious that the US can level every inch of Iran's oil production, and they can certainly damage the rest of the persian gulf's oil.

If people believe that Iran is going to do that anyway, they'll end up blaming Iran for a retaliation they do against the US if the US attacks first, which ultimately wouldn't be a good situation for them.

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BroDrillard

Iran is not currently targeting/destroying Arab oil infra to any significant extent. There were a few symbolic hits to show "we could do this".

If Blormpf wipes out Iran's infra and in return Iran does the same to the Arabs, the world will blame Blormpf. Not just with starting this retarded war, but also with escalating to world economic destruction levels.

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Trevor Goodchild

Exactly right

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Bunsen

@Bunsen@poa.st remote

Plus, the U.S. military's performance has actually been quite pathetic. The Air Force magazine admitted to losing at least 20 aircraft against an enemy with little to no air force.

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Kalogerosstilitis2RvngotJunta

Most were hit on the ground. By the missiles and drones iran was supposed to have run out of.

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jobanab

@jobanab@poa.st remote

That article is counting all of the reaper drones downed in that 20. It makes no mention grounded aircraft that were destroyed.

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Kalogerosstilitis2RvngotJunta

So that's just hits in the air? So 3 f35s (1 israeli) 5 f15s (over Kuwait and the straits) 1 f16(israeli) 1 f18 today and the rest are reapers. But we know jets were hit on the ground at Salman airbase at least. Were they not American?

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Sick Burn, Bro

link to article?

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Kalogerosstilitis2RvngotJunta

Its the us airforce magazine from a couple of eago

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jobanab

@jobanab@poa.st remote

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/usaf-pilot-shrapnel-...

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jobanab

@jobanab@poa.st remote

> at least one KC-135 was damaged on the ground by Iranian attacks on Saudi Arabia

i missed that part in the skimming

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Sick Burn, Bro

"The F-35 is now one of around 20 U.S. Air Force aircraft known to be damaged or destroyed in the nearly three-week-old Iran war." is intentionally vague. But from the numbers in the article it seems to be mostly Reapers

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Trevor Goodchild

Yes. This is not a sustainable loss pattern for a deindustrialized country

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Trevor Goodchild

@BarelyEagle@poa.st remote

Twenty one now

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BarelyEagle

Funny because the US has relied on air supremacy for a long time. It’s their only gimmick.

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Trevor Goodchild

Fight the battle YOU want to fight, not the one the enemy wants. Simple as

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Sick Burn, Bro

@Snidely_Whiplash@nicecrew.digital remote

easier said than done in practice as no sufficiently complicated plan survives contact with the enemy.

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Snidely_Whiplash

Sun Tzu said:
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

IRGC knows Trump now, and they know Israel. Trump and Israel know neither the USA nor Iran.

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Kalogerosstilitis2RvngotJunta

@MongoMonkey@poa.st remote

That's navy btw. F18.

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Bunsen

@Bunsen@poa.st remote

Yeah, F/A-18E or F/A-18F Super Hornet.

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MongoMonkey

We aren't even in the main event yet. This is like a guy having a heart attack in first leg of a triathlon.

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Sick Burn, Bro