people frequently say this is dumb and wrong but it's really not, it would only be if you said you could absolutely solve them. but clearly you can make social interaction better or worse by what technical choices you make on your platform. so, I think about it!
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a lot of my thought on the fediverse lately has been back to "how do you solve or improve the social problems of fedi with technical means"
people frequently say this is dumb and wrong but it's really not, it would only be if you said you could absolutely solve them. but clearly you can make social interaction better or worse by what technical choices you make on your platform. so, I think about it!
people frequently say this is dumb and wrong but it's really not, it would only be if you said you could absolutely solve them. but clearly you can make social interaction better or worse by what technical choices you make on your platform. so, I think about it!
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>"how do you solve or improve the social problems of fedi with technical means"
Can you clarify or give an example on what you mean?
Can you clarify or give an example on what you mean?
@sun does it matter. Fedi is gonna die once the first admin gets arrested for not following age verification laws
@lewdthewides spw is just going to move to tor if it ever has to
@NonPlayableClown pleroma just drops replies into your following timeline, which encourages drive-by rage replying to threads you're not even involved in. it shouldn't do that!
@sun @NonPlayableClown i wonder if this'd cause people to go back to X. A lot of people love to argue.
@sun @lewdthewides i2p I heard is better but slower
@Ree @lewdthewides my opinion: i2p is not safe
@sun @NonPlayableClown I think there's an option to turn that off? (I'm using Husky and am too lazy to check Pleroma FE options.) Leaving that choice to individual users is best in my opinion.
@sun social engineering is a real thing, a surprising amount of thought goes into shit like public parks even, let alone corporate social media. so it would be nice to have people on fedi who actually think about such things but not try to exploit people for profit
@sun @NonPlayableClown then maybe you should be using mastodon instead
@hakui @NonPlayableClown its too far.
@sun @NonPlayableClown
>we should make texas have hihg welfare and tax the rich
>then maybe you should go to california
>its too far
>we should make texas have hihg welfare and tax the rich
>then maybe you should go to california
>its too far
@sun the majority of us will, but 90% of normie fedi won't. If these people can't handle a clothed loli on their timeline, I can't see them adopting privacy tech where no one can do anything about CP by design
@hakui @NonPlayableClown extremists can't even see a middle possibility
@lewdthewides if that kills us, it was time to die. I've come to terms with that
@sun @NonPlayableClown we've had a decade of proof showing there's something to the slippery slope
@hakui @NonPlayableClown we have gone from denying that slippery slopes can even exist to just assuming they all are I guess
Feels like there should be a setting to filter out replies from the main timeline.
>Leaving that choice to individual users is best in my opinion.
Agreed
Also Sun man, options and flexibility will be key to solve that problem.
Agreed
Also Sun man, options and flexibility will be key to solve that problem.
@NonPlayableClown @echo don't make things impossible, give good defaults.
there is also a trick to making good defaults in a way that isn't politically shitty
there is also a trick to making good defaults in a way that isn't politically shitty
@sun @NonPlayableClown It encourages me to have more discussions rather than rage-post. It lets me see public threads that I might otherwise have missed. To see a thread continued on which I wouldn't otherwise know about since I don't get notified of them. It's not all negative. It treats replies like any other post and it was something I loved about GS when I first joined.
Talking about threads being something that you're not even involved with so you shouldn't see them is also anti-social. How can you be involved if you aren't aware of the thread? Can we only reply to threads if we were there at the start of them or if we are tagged in by someone?
It also makes instances seem quieter and more boring than they actually are if we don't see replies because most of the interaction comes from replies to posts. I'm just not seeing what you have here as the only or even main thing. It became less of a problem for me. On twitter, we used to have to add a dot at the start of posts I think so it would show up and get around replies which made drive-by posts worse than making it a normal part of every day conversation.
Talking about threads being something that you're not even involved with so you shouldn't see them is also anti-social. How can you be involved if you aren't aware of the thread? Can we only reply to threads if we were there at the start of them or if we are tagged in by someone?
It also makes instances seem quieter and more boring than they actually are if we don't see replies because most of the interaction comes from replies to posts. I'm just not seeing what you have here as the only or even main thing. It became less of a problem for me. On twitter, we used to have to add a dot at the start of posts I think so it would show up and get around replies which made drive-by posts worse than making it a normal part of every day conversation.
@sun I would love to hear your thoughts on the matter in great detail