tutanota being a honeypot is not what I was expecting to hear today lmao
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@rose Proton is probably the same. Just a different agency.
oh yeah definitely, wasnt there some leak that they gave data to swiss secret agencies?
Seems like the best option is to just selfhost email nowadays
Seems like the best option is to just selfhost email nowadays
@rose They gave the IP address of someone making bomb threats to some agency. A US one I think.
They always felt off to me and got shilled hard by "privacy" and "security" advocates, so that immediately makes them less trustworthy to me. Besides that, the whole reason for using them, email encryption, only works when you send emails from Proton to Proton.
Email transport can be unencrypted anyway between the various MTAs depending on the route, so pretending that email can be private is a half-truth at best.
They always felt off to me and got shilled hard by "privacy" and "security" advocates, so that immediately makes them less trustworthy to me. Besides that, the whole reason for using them, email encryption, only works when you send emails from Proton to Proton.
Email transport can be unencrypted anyway between the various MTAs depending on the route, so pretending that email can be private is a half-truth at best.
I don't trust any company that tries to advertise encrypted email
email is just an unencrypted format, if someone wants to exchange encrypted data they should just use a direct messenger or exchange pgp encrypted data, anyone who tries to sell encrypted email is just a scammer
email is just an unencrypted format, if someone wants to exchange encrypted data they should just use a direct messenger or exchange pgp encrypted data, anyone who tries to sell encrypted email is just a scammer
I trust Proton more than Nord etc. but yeah like any "privacy" provider that gets too big they eventually fall off. I wouldn't use them to do anything I don't want my local glowie looking at. You can't even register for an account through Tor. And idk if they let you pay with Monero.
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i dont think any vpn provider is trustworthy tbh, maybe mullvad at best, vpns are mostly just a psyop tho
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@rose @bonkmaykr Don't worry, you need EXTREME VPNs to be trustworthy. According to "The Hated One". Funny thing is, he called Tutanota "MOST SECURE EMAIL" 3 months ago :D
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they're just inventing new privacy larpers every day man who the fuck is that
did you watch the video? how many times does he mention military grade encryption (also known as AES)
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did you watch the video? how many times does he mention military grade encryption (also known as AES)
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@phnt @bonkmaykr @rose You could say I'm... hated... and there's one of me... you could really say I'm The Hated One, heh....
@rose @bonkmaykr He's been active for around 7 years now. His shtick used to be shilling DuckDuckGo as a good alternative to Google way back then. I didn't watch the video, because I can't stand people like this.
I don't even understand the point of having an "extreme" VPN. Like my usecase for VPNs is open public WiFi, that's it. What even is the use case, when Tor works fine and you have to click on the boats all the time anyway now.
I don't even understand the point of having an "extreme" VPN. Like my usecase for VPNs is open public WiFi, that's it. What even is the use case, when Tor works fine and you have to click on the boats all the time anyway now.
yeah as I said, privacy VPNs are a psyop
Only reason I have a VPN is to get rid of the germans, which is like the same reason pretty much every average person has a VPN, to watch a netflix show from different countries
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Only reason I have a VPN is to get rid of the germans, which is like the same reason pretty much every average person has a VPN, to watch a netflix show from different countries
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@rose@snac.pinkro.se @phnt@fluffytail.org I recommend against Proton Mail because they try to lock you in into their email service with anti-user dark-patterns. It's not just that you have to pay to use your favorite mail client, but you also have to pay to forward mail from your address to another. In other words, you cannot slowly transition to another service without losing mail that still goes to Proton! If you want to use another service, you will have to pay Proton a subscription /forever/ to keep getting forwarded mail. You cannot even download your old mail using POP3 without paying. They have some random utility they tell you to download and run on your machine which would download an export of your data. Extremely anti-user behavior. Even Microsoft and Google have the decency to allow you to setup a forwarding address and download your data using POP3 or even just as a zip archive. Ridiculous.