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@mint if only there was a technical solution to people wanting to talk on a social network
@menherahair >THIS IS A THREAD FOR ME AND MY FRIENDS, WHY ARE YOU POSTING IN IT?
Because I can and I have words to say, duh. Sounds like Discord guild would be more fitting for you.
Because I can and I have words to say, duh. Sounds like Discord guild would be more fitting for you.
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@mint @menherahair why hasn't he made spw into a discord server yet then
@lina @mint if you read carefully he only dislikes "rage replying" which as far as I understand is when a person sees something they don't like and replies to it in a way nobody enjoys. how the fuck has he figured that
1. unpleasant people existing is a problem you can solve with platform design
2. unpleasant people existing is a problem you *should* solve with platform design
much like yourself, is beyond me
1. unpleasant people existing is a problem you can solve with platform design
2. unpleasant people existing is a problem you *should* solve with platform design
much like yourself, is beyond me
@sun @lina @menherahair And pleromer has mitigations as well, from the mute button you're intimately familiar with to tha bility to hide notifications from non-followed people (unless it's something I just hallucinated, it's an option in newer fluoride FE).
@mint @lina @menherahair @sun It has the notif filter and also has a similar tl filter. Don't like replies on your tls? Turn that off.
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@phnt @lina @menherahair @mint the fact that it's not the default drags in traffic that otherwise just wouldn't exist even if you make it invisible.
@sun @lina @menherahair @mint See my posts above why I prefer the current default. Similarly my first reply is how both of our arguments are equally valid and how if you change it, the other side will get frustrated. There's no good default here that most users will like.
As for more traffic, I think that is still a good thing even though it tends to create unwanted derailment by less inteligent forms of life that can't see the difference between seriousposting and shitposting threads. I think the ratio is still far higher for wanted traffic. Other than that, this is a social media network, traffic is kinda what you want anyway. See what friends and others you follow talk about.
As for more traffic, I think that is still a good thing even though it tends to create unwanted derailment by less inteligent forms of life that can't see the difference between seriousposting and shitposting threads. I think the ratio is still far higher for wanted traffic. Other than that, this is a social media network, traffic is kinda what you want anyway. See what friends and others you follow talk about.
@phnt @lina @menherahair @mint that's a fair argument, at this point maybe it's not the right time to change anymore, if someone even thought it was a good idea to change it it will make a bunch of people unhappy
@sun
Everything makes half the people unhappy and the other half happy. That's what we used to be constantly reminded of when the mass blocking campaigns were ongoing.
I see this whole thread as a product of frustration with a declining in population on the whole on the fediverse (including a lot of users who made the place great) and of the lack of a common opponent like we used to have when far-left extremists used to put us on blacklists over the most ridiculous things.
When we were getting blocked for being vaguely different from the other admins' politics or for federating with other blacklisted instances, our miscreant forces had someone else to take it out on that didn't cause friction on this side of the fediverse nearly as much as we see now.
@phnt @lina @menherahair @mint
Everything makes half the people unhappy and the other half happy. That's what we used to be constantly reminded of when the mass blocking campaigns were ongoing.
I see this whole thread as a product of frustration with a declining in population on the whole on the fediverse (including a lot of users who made the place great) and of the lack of a common opponent like we used to have when far-left extremists used to put us on blacklists over the most ridiculous things.
When we were getting blocked for being vaguely different from the other admins' politics or for federating with other blacklisted instances, our miscreant forces had someone else to take it out on that didn't cause friction on this side of the fediverse nearly as much as we see now.
@phnt @lina @menherahair @mint
@leyonhjelm the original post I made wasnt even that upset about anything
@sun
I know, I am not singling anyone out here. I'm talking about the literal whole thread and the tone shift of the fediverse, and I didn't mean for you to feel like I meant you specifically. It's different and I've seen you touch on this in other threads as well. When the population changes, or when the world shifts to different topics, the vibe changes and I liked it better a few years ago.
We do disagree on the merits of a technical solution here but that's not personal and shouldn't be interpreted as a character judgement.
I know, I am not singling anyone out here. I'm talking about the literal whole thread and the tone shift of the fediverse, and I didn't mean for you to feel like I meant you specifically. It's different and I've seen you touch on this in other threads as well. When the population changes, or when the world shifts to different topics, the vibe changes and I liked it better a few years ago.
We do disagree on the merits of a technical solution here but that's not personal and shouldn't be interpreted as a character judgement.
@phnt @lina @menherahair @mint gonna be honest I don't consider them equally valid, one side is "this is more fun" and the other side is "this is less fun" this is a philosophical argument about if its better to prioritize someone else's fun/utility over something some other people just can't tolerate. you can call them weak or whatever of course though. not talking about me. but the thing I proposed exists exactly for that reason
@sun @lina @menherahair @mint Do you get large amounts of unwanted traffic? I consider the sides equal because I rarely do. On the other hand I'm followed way less than you and don't attract the crowds that do this sort of thing.
If the amount of traffic you get is intolerable, would more filtering options help with that. Because instead of changing a default that the users doing this would just change back (not counting other clients), I think it is better to provide more filtering options instead, so that you don't have to see the traffic unless you choose to.
>shortly after a life change that required me to not spend as much time arguing online.
Feel free to reply hours or days later, doesn't matter. We can of course fight this in the next meeting with sticky notes ;)
If the amount of traffic you get is intolerable, would more filtering options help with that. Because instead of changing a default that the users doing this would just change back (not counting other clients), I think it is better to provide more filtering options instead, so that you don't have to see the traffic unless you choose to.
>shortly after a life change that required me to not spend as much time arguing online.
Feel free to reply hours or days later, doesn't matter. We can of course fight this in the next meeting with sticky notes ;)
@sun @lina @menherahair @mint Alright, I partially concede. TWKN is way more usable with replies only to follows. But doing that makes the name no longer true.