I fucking hate C++ so much dude
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I used it exactly twice and hated it both times.
Like it could have just been "C with namespaces and interfaces and strings" and it would have been perfect but NO they couldn't help themselves.
Not even memory safe.
Mike Acton talks this btw
I think if I wanted to really level up my coding I should make c with a multi-pass compiler so I never have to deal with header guards ever again
I think if I wanted to really level up my coding I should make c with a multi-pass compiler so I never have to deal with header guards ever again
it's old too so I'm sure that makes it extra icky.
Idk who that is sorry pal
he went to the capital of cpp and dunked on everyone's head
"if it was up to me I'd write C"
"if it was up to me I'd write C"
Should of chopped them off instead of dunking 😏
I don't even like Go very much either.
Why the hell does every language except for C and brainfuck try to use every damn key on the keyboard for syntax tokens??????????
I don't even like Go very much either.
Why the hell does every language except for C and brainfuck try to use every damn key on the keyboard for syntax tokens??????????
idk man if I had to access a struct member with ">~>🚀🎆" I would just bind em to a key if the language didn't fuck me over by not having something obvious like idk strings or a compiler and just still use it. I just want something that works and doesn't have some retarded ass footgun holdover
have you tried any of
Zig
C2
Odin
Jai
C3
have you tried any of
Zig
C2
Odin
Jai
C3
@mikuphile @WandererUber i dont think the function bodies are valid, however all but the last usages of the word function in the signaure are valid, since union is reserved (but im not a cpp guy so i could be wrong)
I think this is some kind of sick joke!!
@WandererUber @mikuphile whats with all the exclamation marks
it's pretty straightforward actually
>just a memelang
like C++
like C++
I haven't used C++ in a long time but I've never seen or heard of this style of declaration. Especially since "union" is a reserved word in C.
Normally, functions are declared by stating their return type, followed by the name and the parameter list, plus the function body (the latter two is what makes them functions). There is no special keyword required, and the double arrow notation isn't a thing either. I'm only aware of a single arrow (to access members of a pointer) and the shift operator (>>), but of course C++ does allow you to overload operators and I believe even declare your own.
Normally, functions are declared by stating their return type, followed by the name and the parameter list, plus the function body (the latter two is what makes them functions). There is no special keyword required, and the double arrow notation isn't a thing either. I'm only aware of a single arrow (to access members of a pointer) and the shift operator (>>), but of course C++ does allow you to overload operators and I believe even declare your own.
The fact that basically everyone who saw this post actually thought that this might be valid c++ even if just for a split second makes me unbelievably happy
A computer language named after the grade it received for its design.
the examiner should be tarred and feathered
Can't fool me, son. I was learning C++ back when you were still shitting your diapers.
@WandererUber nigga this isnt fucking c++ you fucking moron
I am so sorry man I didn't know that happened to you
It's okay man, I've gotten over it
I watched this today and found it quite enjoyable
You can tell this guy is off the deep end with this shit. Pure hatred in his voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fGB-hjc2Gc
You can tell this guy is off the deep end with this shit. Pure hatred in his voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fGB-hjc2Gc
I for one have never liked C++.
Don't much care for OOP in general either. Esp not using "patterns" fucking everywhere.
"Object-oriented programming is an exceptionally bad idea which could only have originated in California." - Dijkstra
C is a fine language.
Don't much care for OOP in general either. Esp not using "patterns" fucking everywhere.
"Object-oriented programming is an exceptionally bad idea which could only have originated in California." - Dijkstra
C is a fine language.
OOP is fine unless you overdo it like Java does. The best languages I know all use a hybrid object/functional approach.
Bundling together data and the code acting on it makes sense in some scenarios.
But there seems to be a generation of devs trained on Java who want to squeeze in some pattern or another everywhere.
But there seems to be a generation of devs trained on Java who want to squeeze in some pattern or another everywhere.
Got 5 minutes in cant wait for the next 2 hours!!!
it's kino
We had "objects" in C they are called structs and guess what libtard, we can have deep inheritance to via macros or simple inheritance by putting a pointer to another struct in your child object
The tricks aren't even that complicated either!!
The tricks aren't even that complicated either!!
oop and templates and all that garbage is just a complicated cope for saying "I would have to type this out again but I don't want to. Can't the computer write some shitty generic code FOR me?"
But we have LLMs now so it's totally pointless
But we have LLMs now so it's totally pointless
And you get control over when dereferencing happens! It's the best of all worlds.
I do not "dereference", I reserve 512 GB of virtual memory. And if I leak memory, I CRASH.
No we need to invent a completely new programming language to solve a problem that only exists because I am too stupid to go about solving a problem in a conventional way
"also I do not want to know what the computer is actually doing, I want something that has absolutely no relationship to any existing or even potentially theoretically possible silicon"
Built into the compiler and language.......a prerequisite to the compiler........ same function, different place. Not that big a deal except for multiline macros being a bit silly.
they really need to get rid of that for the update (they are. Literally everyone who is developing a C replacement got rid of it)
computers are fast. we have comptime now grandpa
Unless you're writing drivers or doing embedded systems I have never had to even get close to the hardware tbqh.
you have some concept of a register and a cache and a memory address in your head though, hopefully
You know, that would be useful when generating error correction matrices instead of having to precompute them into header files beforehand, but it's still not that big of a deal to keep the generation tools a separate thing that you just change the seed when you change your parameters and then rerun it.
@WandererUber banned from the bjarne stroustrup discord server
Concept yes but unless you are implementing a really performance bottleneck thing it really isn't necessary.
You just need to know:
1. How big is the thing I want to store
2. How long do I need to keep it in memory
And then you can figure out your data types and if you just malloc it or make an arena or whatever.
You don't really need to know about a register for that part unless youre using a debugger, and addressing is so simple I dont even know why you mentioned it
You just need to know:
1. How big is the thing I want to store
2. How long do I need to keep it in memory
And then you can figure out your data types and if you just malloc it or make an arena or whatever.
You don't really need to know about a register for that part unless youre using a debugger, and addressing is so simple I dont even know why you mentioned it
What's so bad about it? The header guards? They take 5 seconds. It's simple and it works.
I'm not a compiler designer obviously, but I think when everyone and their mother tells you preproc got out of hand, and everyone who is competent just rips it out completely, that should count for something.
>precompute them into header files
idk what exactly you're doing over there but I'm sure basically every programmer on the planet would prefer to do it in the same language as the actual fucking program instead of C preprocessor macros.
>precompute them into header files
idk what exactly you're doing over there but I'm sure basically every programmer on the planet would prefer to do it in the same language as the actual fucking program instead of C preprocessor macros.
troonjak lookin ahh
both of those are related to real silicon
>addressing is so simple I dont even know why you mentioned it
the concept is apparently difficult enough that most popular programming languages abstract it away to "pass by value" or "pass by reference" and then abstract that away too. Because people want goes into function comes out of function
>addressing is so simple I dont even know why you mentioned it
the concept is apparently difficult enough that most popular programming languages abstract it away to "pass by value" or "pass by reference" and then abstract that away too. Because people want goes into function comes out of function
I thought we were talking about comptime! 🥴
For avoiding crazy macros:
So, I kind of do that (I dont really use the c preprocessor outside of imports and constants obviously and a couple tiny macros for my logging system) but when I need to do things that would otherwise be a big macro, I just write another small independent tool in C and when I run make, then it runs those tools that do what a macro would have done, whatever it is.
The whole "get rid of the preprocessor" seems like an imaginary problem to me, but maybe I approach problems different than others.
For avoiding crazy macros:
So, I kind of do that (I dont really use the c preprocessor outside of imports and constants obviously and a couple tiny macros for my logging system) but when I need to do things that would otherwise be a big macro, I just write another small independent tool in C and when I run make, then it runs those tools that do what a macro would have done, whatever it is.
The whole "get rid of the preprocessor" seems like an imaginary problem to me, but maybe I approach problems different than others.
Yes, it makes sense why they want that, as I started with python, but when I just restructure it in my mind "a function is not a machine that you load and unload with a forklift, it is a man in a service truck and flat bed trailer that just needs to be told what to work on and where to put it" it was instantly clear.