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so bf6 sucks?
wow
i wouldn't have expected that

@professionalbigot69 maybe bf7 will be better or 8 or maybe 9. I cant wait to play bf10. Theyll get their groove back in bf11. I preordered bf12

@teto @professionalbigot69 maybe you’ll play it on my steam machine if Gabe doesn’t get sued into oblivion.

@Mamako @teto AAA multislop will never be supported on linux

@professionalbigot69 @Mamako games are never supported on linux but work anyways. EA just blocks it actively out of their multiplayer normieslop because of "cheating".

@professionalbigot69 @Mamako anti-cheat for linux exists and works for games like halo btw. I played both halo anniversary and halo infinite online without problems. Microsoft ironically doesnt have a problem with linux gamers. EA does.

@teto @professionalbigot69 @Mamako >anti-cheat for linux exists and works
there is no anti-cheat program on the planet that ever worked. Trusting execution results on untrusted hardware is impossible. It's all a psyop.

@WandererUber @teto @Mamako just another form of DRM, yeah

@professionalbigot69 @teto @Mamako all the smart people (not that many) have moved to AI/stats based server-side detection

@WandererUber @teto @professionalbigot69 @Mamako disagree on this. all the smart people have stopped assuming playing online games with people they don't personally know can ever be cheat-free and have deleted all reliance on "anti-cheat" accordingly.

@HatkeshiatorTND @teto @professionalbigot69 @Mamako okay, not my point
I was talking dev side. Because some people are still actually trying to solve the problem

@WandererUber @teto @professionalbigot69 @Mamako >problem

@HatkeshiatorTND @WandererUber @teto @Mamako yes, a problem for devs that rely on players continuously funding said development with reoccuring purchases on in-game items

@professionalbigot69 @HatkeshiatorTND @teto @Mamako cheating will make people drop your game because they had a bad experience. Because most programmers don't know what they're doing, they use OOP in modern C++ and try client-side anti-cheat for the ten thousandth time.
If you were to actually stop or mitigate the problem, you would wipe the floor with the competition. So the smart ones are developing server-side detection. It's not rocket science.

Serious question, is there a market for a company that has live and AI/server side cheat monitoring (including VOD review) to peddle to these older C++ and client side games? Escape from Tarkov is one of my favorite games that is ruined by this epidemic.

@VikingWays @WandererUber @HatkeshiatorTND @teto @Mamako if a game supports demo playback, training an AI watchdog would be super easy
then you can just hook that watchdog either into the server binaries or have it join as a spectator on in-game matches
valve had a GDC presentation on this iirc