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Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

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keep coming back to this take
"Software is the worst performing sector this year so far"

A lot of SaaS companies 5x ed (or more) their revenue yet their stock fell or stalled. This is all because of AI. That's the word on the street. CEOs all say this. And the AI haters revel in it when they land on their face after putting it into practice: Salesforce rehiring people it fired because of AI, Microsoft completely annihilating what was left of Windows, et cetera

It follows then, that if you think AI is not the golden goose everyone promises it is, then it can actually NOT replace all the SaaS software. Or if it can replace SaaS programmers, it can at best replace them at SaaS companies that still have technical people maintaining the product.

So if you are anti-AI and you are not buying SaaS stock, you're just a liar.

RT: https://poa.st/objects/c993830f-b600-4227-a513-8d5c1064d229

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Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

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@sickburnbro Exactly.
Even I, who is probably more pro-AI than most of fedi, think it's kind of obviously overhyped when they present what they did with AI.
Like
1 they're always kinda lying. They have some bloomberg programmers whip up a mockup of a SaaS clone, but then present it as if the lady holding the microphone did it in half an hour
and
2 everyone knows how hard it is to get AI to make the precise changes you request. Less so with text, but I keep thinking of companies like Adobe. Have these people EVER tried giving image AI precise instructions?

>"A pirate and a monkey standing on a sailing boat.Make the monkey hold a red ball and the guy hold a blue one. The monkey wears a fez and sneakers, the pirate wears a speedo and has a gold chain on his neck.The pirate has one foot up on a treasure chest, the monkey is swinging from the ropes of the main sail"
Try something like this with a SOTA model like Groks, you'll see it overfits while at the same time missing some of the instructions. This isn't a very long prompt.
It's way easier to fix this with hands-on techniques like inpainting than with the "new hotness" of typing the changes as a text prompt. That's a total pain in the ass and almost never works.

now imagine trying to actually bang out a website design with this.
"No. The LOGIN button should be the rounded one!"
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@sickburnbro Did it with a woman pirate for my AI gooner bros out there
Note how it is still unable to put the colored objects where they are supposed to be, the speedo instruction gets kinda lost (wearing a swimsuit in one of theese), and how they all look extremely similar perspective-wise.

If I give a HUMAN the constraint of what she's wearing yet have her look like a pirate, there's a bunch more variation that he could come up with than just give her the hat.
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Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

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@sickburnbro The capabilities AND the potentials they claim AI has right now, and the capabilities AI actually has right now, are all very useful and awesome, so it's crazy to me that they are lying about it.

It's highly valuable to me to have a computerized normie that I can bounce an idea off and immediately go "Urgh, no! Not THAT!" but they say "it will put out stuff that's more creative than any human" which is just wrong
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HAPPYPOTAMUS

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I was on the fence and then I looked at an ETF that holds Crowdstrike and thought "didn't they have a life-ruining fuckup not too long ago" and saw that they dipped after the incident in 2024 and then went on to double their share price, so I went ahead and placed the buy order

Not that they're inherently valuable but the market will float things far longer than is reasonable, Ultron will be enacting global THD and stockniggers will still be pumping this stuff up
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@HAPPYPOTAMUS idk if you should be buying individual stocks with that low level of sophistication, but yeah.
Your example is basically the same thing as what I am thinking. Crowdstrike just has a lot of customers. Sure they will move off eventually if they keep messing up, but like you said
>the market will float things far longer than is reasonable
and this means in practice that they have insurance, that the cost of switching is super high when you have a corp staffed with thousands of incompetents who are unable to understand new things quickly and are also not invested, and so on.

SaaS is the exact same. Like dude millions of people use that every fucking day and their core business model is walled gardening and holding the data hostage. There's just no fucking way businesses are all gonna switch except if AI auto-builds all the data mapping shit you need to have for that and at that point it can just build the new software as well.
But AI, at least according to the haters, will NOT get to that level. So buy SaaS then!
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bronze

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@WandererUber right, but the poor crypto / sports betters aren't anti AI
what I'm trying to say is, these people will never back up their opinions with money because the stock market is
a) evil
b) capitalist
c) killing the planet
these are also the same reasons these people hate crypto and AI
its a fundamentally broke mindset
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BionicNigga

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@WandererUber I don’t have a lot of experience with AI because I just don’t trust any of the companies and local models are mostly worthless, but where I have found it useful for coding is just asking it to explain to me in more detail what a given function does or why something didn’t work etc, so that way I can fail faster while writing all the actual code myself so it sticks. Basically it’s a tutor off which I can bounce questions and ideas while I’m still doing all the work.

Have you observed any benefit in your experience to giving AI a more active role than that, or is it as much a waste of time as trying to get image generators to do anything specific? It is nice for writing one-time use scripts with unfamiliar apps, sure it screws up half the time but then you just keep a backup of your data and reroll until somehow it Just Werks™️.
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@BionicNigga I like AI and see its potential for a lot of tasks, including image and video gen. I think the problem I was getting at is downstream of the marketing going into entirely the wrong direction. AI in the hands of a good artists is 1 more desirable and 2 way nore powerful than just giving it to a clueless normie. Look at psychicpebbles etc and what they do with Suno. That's actually how to use it. not make a normie shit out a passable song.

>Have you AI a more active role than thatrience to giving AI a more active role than that
yes. I use it as a tutor, as a quick summary, and as basically a very patient that I can ask probing questions (That way I can see if claim X is just something everyone velieves but it's total nonsense or if there is an actual obvious answer that I'm just missing)
and I make it wrote code prototypes in languages I am unfamiliar with, to get off the ground. Studies are potentially suggesting that's slower than diying but sometimes you just want the thing and don't care about learning some retarded niggercoal scripting language. Sp it's still good because it saves headache.
more active coding is still difficult but I am also not very good at maintaining large pieces of software so that could be a skill issue.
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Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

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@sickburnbro @bronze I know, I know. but we're in a specific headspace here and I think the singularity kookery and the alogs there are only tangentially related to the specific material claim about AI coding replacing business slopware. Everyone kinda knows that there are ppl out there that conflate a bunch of things about AI just to disparage AI coding. They throw in MS sucking, salesforce needing to rehire, a vibe coded app getting hacked, everything and the kitchen sink, just to argue AI coding is worthless, which it isn't. And bronze is right on the money that for many of those it's brokie schadenfreude motivating this attitude
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@DrRyanSkelton @sickburnbro an argument could be made that AI is not materially different from the typewriter in this regard
of course that's vastly more useful to a good writer than some random ass idiot. Imagine if typewriter companies all had said "everyone can be an author now"

I think it's a fundamental ideological issue, which is signified by them using the word "democratization". They said VFX moving to software was democratization. They said open source was. They say tools like Blender are. They say youtube are.
That's not actually what's happening. Actually talented people, a vast minority, are no longer shut out by economic barriers. That's not the same as "everyone can make a good movie now".

idk just some thoughts
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March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

March 16th, The Hatkeshiator

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@WandererUber @sickburnbro @DrRyanSkelton the first thing to understand is that "everybody" doesn't exist. there is no cube floating in outer space called "everybody" that can do stuff.
the second thing is that no individual person will ever be able to do everything, no matter how easy you make it. time is finite and the amount of things you can do is infinite.
each individual person has callings, interests, etc. that he will pursue, and importantly, he has innate un-aptitude in certain areas too. i am not good at instruments or music composition. i am not good at photography. i am not good at lab work. these are things other people, who are good at them, should do.
importantly, nobody demands to learn their unaptitudes. the selfish simply demand that finished products be handed to them. nobody who's terrible with architecture or metalwork or shell scripting actually picks up a book or, better yet, goes and talks to an actual master of these crafts. no they whine online. why is this? much to ponder.
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@HatkeshiatorTND most people are just retarded dude I don't think it's that deep
Life is not an RPG character creation screen where everyone gets the same amount of points to distribute.
A smart person will be good at architecture AND metalworking that's why they call it general intelligence, the g-factor.

what I was getting at is that democratization as a marketing term and a thing that people are actually trying to do with product/market so and so stems from this egalitarian idea that only the environment is what is holding people back. I can't quite put into words the difference between this and what I said but I think you get the point
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