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CHI CHI CHI CHIP SHOOOOORTAGE

@cjd @DrBtc @Hoss This counter strike guy just tried to be all tough with me like I wasn't taking his game world seriously enough

This is what amerifats think when they hear the words "chip shortage"

@Hoss @DrBtc @cjd @Mammal those YouTube videos on at home photolithography starting to look more and more like investment advice

If the chemicals to do it at home are available enough that you can get them, it means everything is okay enough that chips are still being made at fabs...

@cjd @DrBtc @Hoss @Mammal I mean barrels of HF go missing all the time, and besides wafers I thing that's the only exotic component. Maybe photoresist.

Sure, but chips are still being made. There may be one fab which is very backed up, or even not running at capacity, but it's not like we've "lost the technology".

If we ever get to the point where there are no fabs operating (won't happen IMO), photoresist, metal deposition stuff, etc will all be unobtanium.

@cjd @DrBtc @Hoss @Mammal I'm just saying the best possible way to rehome chip fab to the us is 3dp style hobbyists.

IDK, I think China's EUV supply chain will be fine, and the US needs to undergo a restructuring so things stateside are going to be a little chaotic for a while.

@pwm @DrBtc @cjd @Hoss @Mammal Now start producing Cortex A53's in your garage

@syzygy @DrBtc @cjd @Hoss @Mammal GIWTWM

HF is terrifying. I wouldn't want to mess around with a bottle of the stuff, let alone a whole fucking barrel.

@Hoss @pwm @DrBtc @cjd @Mammal real, you can tell when someone knows nothing about it

@Hoss @pwm @DrBtc @cjd A normal person is not trying to make chips in their garage without state backing. This isn't the boy scout age. Modern hobbyists probably have different projects I expect, like drones or ai tools.

Ive seen the videos of old intel 386 under the microscope and its insane, regardless of anything modern. Can't imagine why anyone would want to etch a chip in their garage even if they could. All that stuff is really cheap to get off the shelf stuff and program it for your own uses.

The same reason why people write free software. It's a fun challenge in the hopes it's useful to others

A video popped up in my recommended recently featuring a guy turning the interior of his shed into a proper clean room.

@Hoss @DrBtc @cjd @Mammal Breaking taps seems to have abandoned his efforts but he built about 80% of a workable setup. Unsure what stopped him but projects in flight also had a semi complete setup going that seems to have stalled

@cjd @DrBtc @Hoss @Mammal eat your neighbor they're full of food trust me im an expert