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@restful @cjd @caekislove >>Weren't the Irainians supplying Russia with drones for Ukraine?

Initially until the Russians started manufacturing their own version, which they have massively improved, the Russians are now experimenting with miniature jet engines, missile launch systems and more, I won't be surprised if they have passed back some of the new designs to the Iranians.

PalePimp

@restful @cjd @caekislove Confirmed.

>>🇷🇺🇮🇷Suddenly, the Russian jamming-resistant receiver “Komet-M” was found in the wreckage of the Iranian kamikaze drone Shahed-136, which attacked the British Air Force airbase “Akrotiri” in Cyprus.

>>Similar "Komet" systems are installed on drones, bombs, and missiles that strike targets in Ukraine.

>>Apparently, improvements to the original Iranian drones have been transferred back to Russia. This is an extremely interesting moment, if it's true - finally, Russia has an opportunity to indirectly retaliate for all the weapons supplies to Ukraine from the West.

Caleb James DeLisle

Supply Iran, push up the price of oil, mire the US in a middle eastern conflict creating an open lane in eastern Europe...

Some decisions just make themselves...

Based Lunatic

@cjd @caekislove @restful @PalePimp I got a feeling this is going to be long lasting, I don't think anyone backing down. With so many downsides for US you have to wonder if US would actually nuke themselves in interest of Israel, obviously they wouldn't, but is there any limit to US acting against their own interest for a foreign country

Caleb James DeLisle

Out of all the parties, the US is probably the least interested. But the only way out is to just walk away from the middle east, which means walking away from the US empire.

It's plausible that Trump may have started this because he wants to destroy the empire now rather than let it collapse later. The Swamp is built on top of the empire, and destroying it now will destroy his enemies before they can destroy him. It's a long shot but it's not utterly impossible.

More plausible that Israel would like to kill the US empire in order to ascend to power in the middle east.

Caleb James DeLisle

Now as soon as the US starts to flounder, Israel is going to NEED to step up in a big way, in order to achieve their strategic objectives.

Something I think has a very high likelihood of happening is Israel declares:
1. All Jews are Israeli citizens
2. All Israeli citizens are required to serve in the military
3. Therefore all Jews are required to report to Israel immediately to begin training

And cynical European governments will take one look at this and say "By George, he's right!"

Based Lunatic

@cjd @caekislove @restful @PalePimp are they planning to make it so bad to just justify nuking Iran

Caleb James DeLisle

Nukes won't do anything against the Iranian combatants, they're not in Tehran. This war is going to be fighting Iranian hillbillies in the mountains. Nuking mountains is just a fast way to use up all of your nukes.

However, if they introduce nuclear warfare into the equation, then it allows Russia and North Korea to supply the Iranians, which is HELL because Israel, KSA, UAE, etc are all FULL of high value targets.

PalePimp

@cjd @caekislove @Dicey @restful Exactly Nukes are great for two things, destroying cities or erasing large concentrations of soldiers. They do nothing against the terrain, and Iran is way to large.

Battles are not fought by large number of soldiers anymore, and obliterating cities is the recipe for the entire world to zerg rush Israel.

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Based Lunatic

@PalePimp @caekislove @restful @cjd it seems unwinnable a fight man to man in the mountainous Iran

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PalePimp

@Dicey @caekislove @restful @cjd This is why they must not send soldiers to fight in Iran, it will be the end of the empire, the USA could win the war, but at the expense of so many lives it is unthinkable from a strategic point of view.

And all for no other reason than "jews"

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Caleb James DeLisle

The US government is in really bad shape.

Military is pretty small, bad recruitment, terrible image.

Draft is unthinkable. Ever since the 70s, Americans are known to shoot draft officers - and if they're drafted, they shoot their commanding officer once deployed.

I think they're going to try a really dumb tactic and use illegals. Promise them citizenship for service, give them 2 weeks of training and parachute them into Iran. It absolutely will not work, but if you're desperate and stupid, you can convince yourself that it might.

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Based Lunatic

@cjd @caekislove @restful @PalePimp soldiers in US will start hood fights in their barracks, in training

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Based Lunatic

@cjd @PalePimp @caekislove @restful there's videos of it, doesn’t seem serious, like there's no discipline.

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PalePimp

@Dicey @caekislove @restful @cjd Standards have gone down a lot in the military in the last 20 years, both due to stupid policies like DEI, too many pointless wars for Israel (many soldiers and officials becoming aware) low birth rates thanks to the jews, mistreatment of the veterans, etc, etc.

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Based Lunatic

@PalePimp @caekislove @restful @cjd you see Russian military, that's something else. Russians actually fight for a reason, not because they are paid only

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Caleb James DeLisle

Russia is one of the last real nation-states.

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Based Lunatic

@vic@shitpost.cloud remote

@cjd @caekislove @restful @PalePimp I agree strongly with this

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vic (sockpuppet account)

> Promise them citizenship for service, give them 2 weeks of training and parachute them into Iran.

Am I a bad person for being sort of okay with this?

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Caleb James DeLisle

@vic@shitpost.cloud remote

> a bad person

In geopolitics as in Taoism, there is no "bad".

But you can easily imagine that when the proposal starts getting passed around, a lot of other people are gonna have more or less your reaction, and that's another reason why it should be considered a likely scenario.

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vic (sockpuppet account)

Well, except that popular opinion has little to do with what actually happens in the US. I think any scenario that involves nonwhites in the US being targeted to be killed in various ways is unlikely.

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Caleb James DeLisle

Well, their other problem is they're just out of options.

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PalePimp

@cjd @caekislove @Dicey @restful I would be a miracle that any kind of land invasion wouldn't result in a military catastrophe for the history books.

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pepsi_man

@pepsi_man@poa.st remote

@cjd
What if the war in Iran is just a big debt jubilee for the empire? If the price of oil sky rockets it'll curb inflation and the Americans can print more money.
@caekislove @Dicey @restful @PalePimp

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Caleb James DeLisle