Amazing. Nice little "super power" we have over here. A trillion dollars just can't even buy it success while a trillion dollars could have done wonders for education, healthcare, pensions, and many other things. Nice little clown show we are operating over here.
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> a trillion dollars could have done wonders for education
The way the US education system works, I have my doubts 😂
The way the US education system works, I have my doubts 😂
@cjd The potential is there. Its execution is another thing. We know the military can't handle any money. We can't even audit them. I don't think education is losing track of billions or trillions in equipment and funds though.
US education funding just all disappears into Democrat campaign accounts.
The US could be first in the world with current education spending on a system that is not insanely corrupt.
The US could be first in the world with current education spending on a system that is not insanely corrupt.
@cjd I don't know enough to say. Can't be as bad as the military though.
2023 Military -> 736bn
2014 Education -> 904bn
The trick is that education is mostly on the state and local books, not federal. And different years because those are just the charts I found...
2014 Education -> 904bn
The trick is that education is mostly on the state and local books, not federal. And different years because those are just the charts I found...
@cjd Lets pretend that we for sure know education is more corrupt for a second. At least that corruption is mostly staying at a local and state level instead of international contracts with foreign nations such as Israel that get big bonuses from the military expenditures. The military can make a bunch of weapons, not use most of it for a decade, and then "donate" it to places like Ukraine or fuel black budgets. The current budget is something like 1.15 trillion for the military too.
@Sovereign @cjd You can't make high end weapons without a good base iq population, then a good education system from early on. Russia and china succeed where western technology fails because its scientists and engineers are mostly white(Russia) and some asians and chink for china and then grew up and went through an educational system that is demonstrably better than the western one. You can't educate shitskins but even high iq people without proper education from childhood will not be able to build space weapons and hypersonics. So the corruption of western education is very serious. And the bulk of it is from the left.
@Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @cjd Yeah I definitely wouldn't disagree with that. But I hope the point I'm making is also understood. Education is a very long wavelength type of thing that takes a long time to produce results, both negative or positive. Military is more in your face with selling something that is price gouged to the government by 100x. I'd argue its similar to healthcare more than education. Education I don't think is selling a pencil for $100 but hospitals will charge insurance $50 for a single Advil.
The dumbing down of the average American is intentional. The creation of compulsory state education was done specifically to make domesticated house pets out of free-range men. The government education system is not and never was meant to turn ignorant people into educated people. That's not why it was created and any gains it ever made in that effort were mostly unintentional.
So if you pumped a bunch of money into it, it would continue to not do the thing it isn't supposed to do, but with more grift and fraud.
So if you pumped a bunch of money into it, it would continue to not do the thing it isn't supposed to do, but with more grift and fraud.
@weknowwhygary @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @cjd Probably generally right, but sometimes you get lucky and have good teachers. Sometimes.
@Sovereign @weknowwhygary @cjd @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta Don't throw good teachers before niggers.
@white_male @weknowwhygary @cjd @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta The best teachers usually aren't teaching niggers though. You have to sometimes take honor level or advanced placement classes for the good teachers. The worst teachers usually teach the regular classes. At least that was my experience.
@Sovereign @white_male @weknowwhygary @cjd @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta In the public school system the "best" teachers aren't necessarily very good, either.
From my experience tutoring I'd get students in IB or AP struggling because the teachers teaching the material were just average at best themselves.
The schools start the programs because of extra funding and prestige. And these schools do have the advanced to gifted students to take the programs and benefit from them.
But you're still stuck with the teachers you have.
A lot of good teachers leave teaching because of the other ones.
From my experience tutoring I'd get students in IB or AP struggling because the teachers teaching the material were just average at best themselves.
The schools start the programs because of extra funding and prestige. And these schools do have the advanced to gifted students to take the programs and benefit from them.
But you're still stuck with the teachers you have.
A lot of good teachers leave teaching because of the other ones.
@petra @weknowwhygary @cjd @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @white_male Yeah but at a very minimum, the amount of students is less in these classes, which makes the teacher-to-student ratio better. The textbooks are more challenging too. I'm sure there are plenty of average teachers sure. I'll give you that.
@Sovereign @weknowwhygary @cjd @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @petra >textbooks are more challenging too
Don't you have to follow the same state/federal curriculum most of the time? There's standard and advanced flavor, but i don't think most schools have freedom here.
Don't you have to follow the same state/federal curriculum most of the time? There's standard and advanced flavor, but i don't think most schools have freedom here.
TLDR, it's the lowest common denominator students and teachers that make public schools inadequate for good schooling for brilliant students.
I think many/most states do curriculum locally, and if not then it's state. That just tells them what subjects they have to teach, though, and that is usually Shakespeare vs maya angelo. Not often does it mean algebra vs george floyd. The fact that they can be all over the place on literature and history is largely meaningless as the industrial/tech/defense status of the nation doesn't care if you read Hoppe or not.
What will screw up your classroom and stop your genius student from achieving is the fact that he isn't segregated from the other students who are dumb. There are small efforts here and there, and sometimes you can get a real different outcome, but mostly it's nothing different.
I was in gifted classes from 5th grade on, in about 5 or so different schools. The other kids in my classes were not geniuses. Maybe one or two. Mostly it was just upper midwit tier students. The ones left behind in normal classes were below midwit, but not fully retarded. They struggled with basic material. These are all 90%+ White schools I'm talking about. Some of them in very wealthy places where the parents are doctors, lawyers, and pilots. There was no real class for really really genius students. You had to go to private school for that. The "gifted classes" moved at the same pace as the regular class, you just did more work. The pace of the regular class is set so that most of the mouth breathers can keep up. It is slow as pond water. A genius kid could do the year in a month if he wasn't being held back.
The biggest problem with public schools not being good enough to consistently output brilliant grads is that the brilliant students are shacked with all the others, and every sociopolitical norm says you are playing with fire by trying to separate them. What are you some kind of nazi? Every retarded nigger can be a rocket surgeon. It's just socioeconomic factors, biggot.
Teachers is easy. Education majors in college (future teachers) have pretty much always had the lowest standardized test scores of every college major. Maybe they go up one slot now and then, but they are consistently the dumbest group, so the White Rhino smart teacher isn't moving the needle at all. The genius kid in public school has a retard for a teacher, by comparison. He needs a genius teacher, and geniuses don't become public school teachers. The genius kid likely has another genius somewhere in his family, like maybe his dad, and 100 years ago that would have been his teacher.
I think many/most states do curriculum locally, and if not then it's state. That just tells them what subjects they have to teach, though, and that is usually Shakespeare vs maya angelo. Not often does it mean algebra vs george floyd. The fact that they can be all over the place on literature and history is largely meaningless as the industrial/tech/defense status of the nation doesn't care if you read Hoppe or not.
What will screw up your classroom and stop your genius student from achieving is the fact that he isn't segregated from the other students who are dumb. There are small efforts here and there, and sometimes you can get a real different outcome, but mostly it's nothing different.
I was in gifted classes from 5th grade on, in about 5 or so different schools. The other kids in my classes were not geniuses. Maybe one or two. Mostly it was just upper midwit tier students. The ones left behind in normal classes were below midwit, but not fully retarded. They struggled with basic material. These are all 90%+ White schools I'm talking about. Some of them in very wealthy places where the parents are doctors, lawyers, and pilots. There was no real class for really really genius students. You had to go to private school for that. The "gifted classes" moved at the same pace as the regular class, you just did more work. The pace of the regular class is set so that most of the mouth breathers can keep up. It is slow as pond water. A genius kid could do the year in a month if he wasn't being held back.
The biggest problem with public schools not being good enough to consistently output brilliant grads is that the brilliant students are shacked with all the others, and every sociopolitical norm says you are playing with fire by trying to separate them. What are you some kind of nazi? Every retarded nigger can be a rocket surgeon. It's just socioeconomic factors, biggot.
Teachers is easy. Education majors in college (future teachers) have pretty much always had the lowest standardized test scores of every college major. Maybe they go up one slot now and then, but they are consistently the dumbest group, so the White Rhino smart teacher isn't moving the needle at all. The genius kid in public school has a retard for a teacher, by comparison. He needs a genius teacher, and geniuses don't become public school teachers. The genius kid likely has another genius somewhere in his family, like maybe his dad, and 100 years ago that would have been his teacher.
@weknowwhygary @Sovereign @cjd @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @petra >Oh, if only we had space schools, alien teachers and haptic holographic volumetric displays.
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