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Chartin deMartre

IF TRUMP DECLARES UNILATERAL VICTORY AND BAILS, THE PETRODOLLAR IS OVER AND THE U.S HAS
N O T H I N G
OTHER THAN WHITE PEOPLE

OUR PRODUCTIVITY AND SKILLS ARE THE ONLY "INTERNAL" RESOURCE THE ENEMY HAS

THIS WOULD'VE BEEN FANTASTIC FOR NEGOTIATING INSTITUTIONAL POWER IF WE HAD ANY SORT OF PRO-WHITE POLITICAL ORG

WHICH WE DON'T, BECAUSE USELESS WORTHLESS FAGGOTS DECIDED MAKING PODCASTS AND ADDING "-OID" TO VARIOUS WORDS ON TWITTER, (THE U.S GOVERNMENT OPT-IN SURVEILLANCE AND PROPAGANDA PLATFORM) WAS MORE THEIR SPEED.

The Epstalgia Critic

@weaf@poa.st remote

@nugger TO BE FAIR, EXPECTING TO NEGOTIATE WITH ZOG SEEMS TREACHEROUS AT BEST BASED ON HOW OTHER NATIONS ARE TREATED. I LIKE THE CHINESE APPROACH OF DO NOTHING - WIN (LET THE MORONS HANG THEMSELVES)

Chartin deMartre

@nugger@poa.st remote

@weaf WE NEED A CLEARING HOUSE ORG THAT PROVED ITSELF TO THE AVERAGE WHITE PERSON THAT CAN POINT AT NIGGAS THAT GO TO WORK FOR CIA AND LOCKHEED MARTIN AND SHOUT "TRAITOR"

WE'VE GOT
Z E R O
MEANS TO PREVENT DEFECTION WITHOUT AN ORG
THERE'S NO NEGOTIATION SIMPLY BECAUSE ZOG CAN GO
"AWWW, SORRY FOR TRYING TO GENOCIDE YOU FOR THE LAST BIFFTY YEARS
HERE'S A $35/HR OPENING TO WORK ON REBUILDING OUR POWER"

AND PEOPLE WILL JUST GO, BECAUSE FUCK MAN, IT'S BEEN MISERABLE

The Epstalgia Critic

@weaf@poa.st remote

@nugger ITS FUNNY BECAUSE I HAVE THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE BELIEF, I THINK YOU SHOULD ENCOURAGE MERCENARY BEHAVIOUR BECAUSE IT MAKES THE POWER STRUCTURE THAT MUCH MORE DELICATE. ACCUMULATING CAPITAL IN ANY CAPACITY IS POWER. THE TRICK IS REMAIN PURELY MERCENARY RATHER THAN ALLOW YOURSELF TO BUY INTO THE SUPPORTING THE SYSTEM OUT OF SOME MISGUIDED BELIEF YOU CAN CHANGE IT FROM WITHIN.

Chartin deMartre

@nugger@poa.st remote

@weaf "WE HAVE PRO WHITE PEOPLE ON THE INSIDE!"
"OH NO, WHEN PUSH CAME TO SHOVE, THESE PEOPLE CHOSE THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM!"
"OH WELL, THAT WAS JUST A SMALL INCIDENT, OF COURSE THEY WOULDN'T RISK THEIR INFILTRATION STATION OVER A TRIFLE"
"OH NO, ANOTHER TRIFLE, AND THEY COON FOR ZOG AGAIN!"
"AND ANOTHER!"
"IT'S OKAY, SOMEDAY OUR CAUSE GAINS ENOUGH MOMENTUM THAT THERE'S A BIG ENOUGH EVENT THAT ALL THESE INFILTRATORS WILL JUST SPRING OUT OF THE SHADOWS!"
"IN THE MEANTIME THEY'RE KEEPING ZOG ALIVE AND OFFERING THEIR COMPETENCE"

Chartin deMartre

@nugger@poa.st remote

@weaf LIKE
JUST ENCOURAGE YOUR PARTISANS TO BECOME FBI INFORMERS AT THAT POINT

"THEY'LL ALL FEED THE FEDS FALSE INFO AND COLLECT RESOURCES, HAHAHA! IT'S THE PERFECT PLAN!"

The Epstalgia Critic

@weaf@poa.st remote

@nugger IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME WHY WE'RE AT OPPOSITE ENDS REGARDING THIS. YOU'RE CONSIDERING ZOG LIKE A MILITARY OR IMPERIAL OCCUPATION, WHERE THE FOREIGN RULERS ARE OUT ENCOURAGING DIVISION AND BETRAYAL AMONG THE NATIVES TO AUGMENT THEIR RANKS.

THE WAY I SEE IT, ZOG IS JUST THE LATEST DYNASTY THATS TAKEN THE IMPERIAL THRONE IN THE NEW ROME. YOUR AVERAGE WHITE AMERICA IS A GOTH WHO GOT INVITED IN GENERATIONS AGO TO HELP WIN WARS AND MAINTAIN THE DEFENCES ON THE FRONTIERS IN EXCHANGE FOR LAND. ITS ONLY EVER BEEN A RELATIONSHIP OF CONVENIENCE AND THE CONVENIENCES ARE RAPIDLY COMING TO AN END.

Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

@wgiwf@poa.st remote

@weaf @nugger The issue I take with this take is that this isn't "New Rome" but Nova Carthago. Roman symbolism be damned.

The Epstalgia Critic

@weaf@poa.st remote

@wgiwf @nugger MY SUPER NUCLEAR HOT TAKE IS THAT THE NEW CARTHAGE WAS ACTUALLY BR*TAIN

Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

@wgiwf@poa.st remote

@weaf @nugger New Phoenicia vs. New Carthage for Britain vs. USA

Jaws

@WhiteJihadJaws@poa.st remote

@wgiwf @weaf @nugger My lukewarm "oh no I've let my coffee sit and now it tastes like shit" take is that these comparisons to old empires really don't do the situation justice at all whatsoever. They help i guess to people who are mostly blind to the situation *maybe*. But to those who see the system as the enemy and seek its demise only benefit with seeing it as it is without comparison. Boring take, i know but its an honest one.

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Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

@wgiwf@poa.st remote

@WhiteJihadJaws @weaf @nugger It's attempting to simplify complex societies down to stereotypical historical ones. I think the Carthage comparison is useful in a rhetorical sense more than a descriptive one.
People talk about America as the new Rome: IE. the successor of the beacon of Western Civilization, but miss the inherently mercantile nature and the "Canaanite influence", with its progenitor state of Britain as well, of the American Empire, particularly when it stands in contrast to the continental European powers it defeated to become top dog.
It's usefulness is to counteract the claims made by American "exceptionalism" and place it into a historical perspective that isn't subject to modern modes of thinking.

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Jaws

@WhiteJihadJaws@poa.st remote

@wgiwf @weaf @nugger Thats fair