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@sun @Ree @thatbrickster i hope this will be different because noone can defend what happened here.

some people are actually in favor of mass surveillance publically. or imprisoning innocent people. some people are actually in favor of Guantanamo. people publically defending human trafficking of minors is pretty small.

also since this affects all kind of elites, it is less partisan.

but it is hopium on my side. i really hope this will be a red line.