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Blurry Moon

I cannot restate enough how underspecified and fragmented the fediverse ecosystem is if you try to actually do anything "cool" with it.

lain

@lain@lain.com remote

@sun i have some appreciation for the misskey approach of 'just put random shit in the object and let god sort it out'

Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

@lain I felt a great sense of freedom working with Egregoros and not trying to ram everything through the mastodon-shaped pinhole anymore.

Phantasm

@phnt@fluffytail.org remote

@sun @lain You can just ignore Mastodon. (Many don't understand this.)

@i@declin.eu remote

@phnt @lain @sun there's easier ways to have no one to federate with

Phantasm

@phnt@fluffytail.org remote

@i @lain @sun The two features I'm in the process of building into Pleroma are both incompatible with Mastodon, one will be a new FEP. Do you think I care that Mastodon users won't be able to take advantage of them? No, they can try to convince their emotionless CEO to support them. Not my problem.

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Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

@phnt @i @lain are we all on the same page, we're just building the mastodon network now and it's not perfectly speaking the activitypub network but it has massively more investment and respect for it than that other project

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Phantasm

@phnt@fluffytail.org remote

@sun @i @lain Mastodon and Pleroma fixed ActivityPub, the spec as defined is almost useless to build a network on. It's a recipe on how to build your own federated activity-based protocol.

I'm not building the Mastodon network, I'm building a network based on ActivityPub that tries to be compatible with everything while not making compromises because of it. My absolute end goal is a V2 spec that is actually usable, or LitePub V1. And FEPs are just a vehicle for that.