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So, I got OpenClaw installed, which was a terrible pain in the ass until I switched to Linux, then it worked pretty much right away.

You can tell it to do things using a chat gateway, but it only supported protocols I didn't want to use, like IRC or Telegram or Discord.

I pointed it at documentation and told it to implement a delta.chat gateway.

first working version: under 5 minutes
final fully-working version: under one hour.

openclaw provided its own fix iteration loop and was able to see its own errors and fix them itself. I wrote/read no code.

I told it to prepare the code to be redistributed. I'll be auditing the code for bugs and then submitting it back to them after this conference.

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@sun that's the third custom deltachat bridge this month, too bad the upstream is swamped as is to accept even more bridges when it can bootstrap a new one trivially enough anyway

kinda sucks how easily everything is possible now, and how nothing became more worth doing in spite of it
@sun not long until openclaw is stalling PR's and closing issues as WONTFIX on it's own too

also the third one is me, fully custom thing i'm playing around with
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So, I got OpenClaw installed, which was a terrible pain in the ass until I switched to Linux, then it worked pretty much right away.

You can tell it to do things using a chat gateway, but it only supported protocols I didn't want to use, like IRC or Telegram or Discord.

I pointed it at documentation and told it to implement a delta.chat gateway.

first working version: under 5 minutes
final fully-working version: under one hour.

openclaw provided its own fix iteration loop and was able to see its own errors and fix them itself. I wrote/read no code.

I told it to prepare the code to be redistributed. I'll be auditing the code for bugs and then submitting it back to them after this conference.
@fastfinge very nice. I do actually run an xmpp server but the image attachments are always broken + I didn't want to raise the size limit for everyone, so I just went with my friend's delta.chat.

the telegram stuff icked me out, it uses some random unknown person's bot management service? how long until that gets pwned
@sun I'm using snikket and things seem to work fine. Also means I can have different accounts for different agents if I want. The other services other than IRC make getting second accounts hard enough, never mind third or fourth or fifth ones. I don't have that many valid phone numbers LOL. But on my own XMPP server I can just make all the accounts I want without bothering anyone.
@Ree @sun Yes exactly. Better to make sure that even if it, say, hands out the password to its XMPP account, nobody can log into that account anyway, because it's protected by an IP allow list. And the XMPP server is a different machine, so it can't add your IP to the allow list even if it wants to. Same for API keys and so on. Assume it will give them to any random jerk who puts up a webpage that asks it to. Make sure they can't do anything with those keys.