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@histoire3 no no that’s fucking garbage
@silas@noauthority.social
Cope roundie
@histoire3 @silas yeah. I mean, I live in Europe myself and being an engineer I can see how round logs are just better durability-wise. But then, considering how many standards we have in Europe.... Ya know... 🤣
BTW, I recently replaced all my sockets with UNEL ones - they cover most of the plugs
BealtaineGoat
It always amazes me how diverse the plugs/sockets are whenever I go to the continent, sometimes even within one country.
In Ireland we used the UK 3-Pin standard for almost everything (except specifically shavers for some reason) which doesn't have any downsides I can see. It won't actually deliver power until fully plugged in so it's hard to kill yourself by accident and the built in earth line is a good safety feature.
That said if we migrated to the three pin universal standard I wouldn't complain, it's more or less the same.
In Ireland we used the UK 3-Pin standard for almost everything (except specifically shavers for some reason) which doesn't have any downsides I can see. It won't actually deliver power until fully plugged in so it's hard to kill yourself by accident and the built in earth line is a good safety feature.
That said if we migrated to the three pin universal standard I wouldn't complain, it's more or less the same.
@Eiregoat @ThatCrazyDude @silas
except specifically shavers for some reason
Low voltage so they’re safe around water. Means you can’t put a plugged-in toaster in the bath.
Doesn't the earth pin already solve that problem though?
Plus aren't they 110v anyhow?
Plus aren't they 110v anyhow?
@Eiregoat @ThatCrazyDude @silas You’re right, it’s not the voltage: they have a special isolation circuit.
The earth pin isn’t enough to save you if there’s water involved, afaik.
@Eiregoat @ThatCrazyDude @silas Same reason the bathroom light switch is generally outside the room or a pull cord: keeping wet hands away from the mains.
I thought that was more because of spray, to avoid tripping the circuit with humidity.
If you have wet hands you're probably still going to use the light switch even if it's outside.
If you have wet hands you're probably still going to use the light switch even if it's outside.
@Eiregoat @ThatCrazyDude @silas UK safety regs are arguably over-built.
It looks like (some?) modern plug sockets have something called Ground-Fault Circuit Interrupters built in, so toaster-in-the-bath is survivable in newer homes.
@Flick @Eiregoat @silas yeah, it's bonkers in the UK. I mean, having a law saying that every plug needs to have a built-in fuse is just ridiculous. But then, perhaps the Brits really need that level of idiot-proofing 🤔
In any case, one ground-fault breaker per phase combined with over current trip is more than enough to keep you from accidently electrocuting yourself ;)
@ThatCrazyDude @Flick @Eiregoat having fuses in the plug is not for human protection. its just the effect you get when designing your appliances with tiny shit cables, for a ringcircuit fused with 32A.
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> ring circuit
Ahh yes, that goofy thing that's unique to Britain. Like the goofy Edison Multi-wire Circuit that's unique to the US...
Ahh yes, that goofy thing that's unique to Britain. Like the goofy Edison Multi-wire Circuit that's unique to the US...