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When Obama beat Romney, someone asked Harry Reid about his hilariously transparent lies about Romney's taxes on the Senate floor. Reid did not address the question as an honest man does. He replied, "It worked, didn't it?"

Lying works. It is powerful. This is a war. Not a Saturday afternoon Republic serial. We need all the weapons we can get.

Once my heritage is secured, by blood or alse, then I will worry about whether I can sleep at night after lying about the people who want me genocided.

(I won't, most likely.)

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@s2208 You are not the obama campaign lying to the masses though, you are lying to yourself. That doesn't work. You just believe nonsense. Like for example that it mattered what dumb retarded people ended up believing in Obama's presidential campaign.

Quoast in this case proves another of my theories. Most people are incapable of deciphering what IS true, therefore cope and say it doesn't matter, and then try to signal to each other how much of a good person they are. Like you're doing now:
>Once my heritage is secured, by blood or alse, then I will worry about whether I can sleep at night after lying about the people who want me genocided.

This is really not an argument you're just grandstanding. And kinda gay also.
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@s2208 @WandererUber
Hell you don't even have to lie.

Just gaslight, obfuscate, and above all else; never admit even blatant guilt. Everything is the same among humans and beasts. There's a lot of bluffing and if you cave to the bluff then you're dinner.

Obviously different rules apply to family and religious peers.
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@pepsi_man @s2208 both of you really miss what I said and just regurgitate a point you have read online before
it's really really sad to see and it proves my point

there is a miles-wide obvious difference between "I'm not engaging in good faith with an enemy that hates me" and what I said, which is that "you shouldn't make up random nonsense, because you will look retarded and BE retarded when you end up believing it yourself"

but you guys immediately switched to LLM mode and just output what you thought was related. It's not. But you don't care. you will just end up believing random nonsense. Like always
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The reason someone like that needs to be destroyed is because he is a liar. How you win, how you fight, etc, vs why you should fight, why you should win, why the other side should lose.

If you do the exact same thing the other side does, the side that should lose, then you just joined the side that should lose.

Subterfuge in war and lying are not always the same thing. You trick your enemies, but you don't lie to your neighbors. One okay, one bad.

Not that him being on one side of the equation means that the other side, romney, was good. It was two bads in a fight.
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@s2208 @pepsi_man I really don't understand what your problem is
it's REALLY obvious why you should strive to know and tell the truth. but if it isn't, we simply are not in the same movement at all.

like imagine being the guy that finds out the truth about what is going on in the world (Jews run society, niggers are just stupid but everyone is lied to about it, whites are being genocided) and then immediately going "Oh. Now that we are getting people to see this, we should immediately start lying"
it's just retarded
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Do you tell a four year old that there is no Santa Claus?

No, you don't, because spoiling the illusion harms more than it illuminates.

Same thing about the JQ. You have to start much, much smaller than that.

(Incidentally, Santa Claus is actually real, but he lived long ago.)
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I can be charitable about it. There is room for a grey area regarding deception in war. You don't email your enemy with up to date numbers on your troops and movements in an effort to be honest. You deceive your enemy in battle. You make him think something that isn't true, so that he doesn't know what is true, so that you can catch him off guard.

That's something different than lying to the pool of potential recruits about why they should join you. "I want you to risk everything to help me fight this guy, but I don't respect you enough to tell you the truth about why."

Atrocity propaganda is a real and constant element of warfare throughout history, but it's probably more heavily weighted on the side that isn't fighting with defensible motives. If you had real and justifiable reasons to fight, why did you make up all that other stuff that didn't happen? Tends to be because the real reason wasn't defensible.
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Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

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@weknowwhygary @s2208 yeah absolutely

>"I want you to risk everything to help me fight this guy, but I don't respect you enough to tell you the truth about why."
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Atrocity propaganda is also what those who already rule you do to get you mad. It's not how you get power. It should be really obvious that those trying to take power need to act very differently from those that have it, but for some reason alleged Right-wingers still don't understand that the Jews didn't take power by winning elections in the 60s. Like dude, they didn't become so powerful by telling people about racial equality, they were ABLE to spread this nonsense because they were ALREADY in power.
Imagine thinking you need to compete with the biggest media machine on the planet by "uh just making MORE atrocity propaganda I guess" Great strategy pal...
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Would you say a meme can be more powerful than a sentence? Is it not only possible, but regularly so?

The meme is not the literal truth, but it contains truths.

So it is with good propaganda. Digestible, powerful, actionable messages that suggest to a large number of people that it is in their best interest to orient toward your cause in a real way.

That is what the jews did; it crippled us as a culture; and it needs reversing.

But the language that did it is also the language necessary to undo it. You're not going to argue a man (or especially a woman) off the position he holds with facts if that's not how he came to believe it.

The meme is not a lie. The meme is myth made small enough to hold. While not literally true and not thorough in its proofs, it contains truth.

More than that, it contains the power to perpetuate our race, which we agree is a high value - perhaps higher than any other, save glorifying God.

Fire with fire, brother. That's all.
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@s2208 @pepsi_man My initial thesis, if you recall was that believing that particular thing was wrong, and therefore stupid. And that if you point out that it is stupid and wrong, people will call you a Jew defender. Which I was correct about btw.

And then I tried to explain to you why it's bad to believe wrong and stupid things and now you guys keep regurgitating unrelated things about deceiving an enemy in war, which is not what's happening, and you particularly keep saying making atrocity proapaganda is good. Which kinda works when you already have media control and power, but you don't. so even that is stupid.

Being wrong because you are stupid = bad
Being wrong on purpose because you want to lie to people = bad
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The problem with that plan is that if you want someone to go along with the child rape, you can't just invite them over to your compound and film them raping a child. You generally have to film yourself doing it as well and let them have the video so as to achieve mutually ensured destruction if one of you flips.

Psychopaths might be crazy, but they aren't stupid.
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The problem here is assuming that the people involved are thinking about things in these terms. The people striving for power and wealth, and getting invited to the orgy island, are assumed to have this arithmetic of compromise and leverage on their minds, as though they are always cognizant of being perpetually "in the ring," and that's probably not the case.

We react like, "you fell for it? you got invited to rape island and didn't think there would be cameras?" Correct. That's not what they were thinking. They were thinking, "pussy."

It reminds me of the discussion about Enoch I had with @tyler and Rubeus years ago. Rubeus didn't think it made sense that Enoch would sell his entire inheritance for a bowl of soup without some other details to explain it (it wouldn't make sense that these strivers would get caught in the rape-cam trap so easily), but Tyler argued, yeah that makes perfect sense. People make those kinds of stupid short sighted decisions all day long (people get tunnel (pussy)-vision all the time).

You get done eating that bowl of soup and pretty quickly realize you weren't thinking clearly about the deal you made.
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Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

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@weknowwhygary @Verfassungsschmutz @s2208 @tyler there's also the fact that no normal person ever would ask for ID when he's invited to a private yacht party

like imagine being a millionaire, having been to hundreds of parties and someone goes "urm are these girls all eighteen?" Who would even ask that? Nobody.
They're not going in with the expectation that they are being entrapped, they just want to party. They probably don't even know that Epstein "hired" (trafficked) all the girls, necessarily.
This is very easy to pull off and the feds do it to people they don't like all the time btw. That Ghost Gunner guy comes to mind
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@s2208 @WandererUber The lies "worked," because he had the MSM behind him. Imagine the scale of the Holohoax. But, if WE lie, then we will be called out, and made to look like bad-guys.

Might be thinking ...

But they'll lie about us anyway.

Yeah, but it's a powerful thing when we show folks THEY are lying.

As an aside, Romney was a typical "If you are poor, it's YOUR FAULT" Republican. "Just keep Working Harder, GOY!!" Remember him complaining about those who didn't earn enough to qualify to pay income taxes**? He didn't say:

Doesn't it SUCK how elites like me (merger/acquisition guy) have destroyed our middle-class with immigration-replacement workers and outsourcing (which he supported), to the point 1/2 of Americans don't even earn enough to pay the income tax?!?!?

Act like that, and you deserve to lose - just as Trump deserves to be hated, for his similar policy-moves, now. Can't wait for them to whine about the Chavista-style govt the blowback, which this will inevitably produce. But, of course, they will just move somewhere else, into a new mansion w/servants, and fund death-squads at-a-distance.

** (it's 15% on your first dollar in SS taxes, while the rich get a "cap" to avoid this tax on their millions/year in income)

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