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When Obama beat Romney, someone asked Harry Reid about his hilariously transparent lies about Romney's taxes on the Senate floor. Reid did not address the question as an honest man does. He replied, "It worked, didn't it?"

Lying works. It is powerful. This is a war. Not a Saturday afternoon Republic serial. We need all the weapons we can get.

Once my heritage is secured, by blood or alse, then I will worry about whether I can sleep at night after lying about the people who want me genocided.

(I won't, most likely.)

weknowwhygary

@weknowwhygary@nicecrew.digital remote

The reason someone like that needs to be destroyed is because he is a liar. How you win, how you fight, etc, vs why you should fight, why you should win, why the other side should lose.

If you do the exact same thing the other side does, the side that should lose, then you just joined the side that should lose.

Subterfuge in war and lying are not always the same thing. You trick your enemies, but you don't lie to your neighbors. One okay, one bad.

Not that him being on one side of the equation means that the other side, romney, was good. It was two bads in a fight.

Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

@WandererUber@poa.st remote

@weknowwhygary @s2208 yeah and also
"Both of these Jew factions were literally just lying all the time. This somehow proves that telling the truth doesn't work"

even though basically all politics is prefaced on people becoming radicalized when they find out they have been lied to. Partisans never switch sides because they know the other side is lying about issue X.

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@s2208@nicecrew.digital remote

If all the people who have attained power use lying as a central tool, does that suggest lying is optional, or necessary?

weknowwhygary

@weknowwhygary@nicecrew.digital remote

It's more complicated than, "they did this and it worked, so we can and must do it also."

Blackmailing politicians with child rape video works, apparently, so why don't we just do that?

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@Verfassungsschmutz@nicecrew.digital remote

The problem with that plan is that if you want someone to go along with the child rape, you can't just invite them over to your compound and film them raping a child. You generally have to film yourself doing it as well and let them have the video so as to achieve mutually ensured destruction if one of you flips.

Psychopaths might be crazy, but they aren't stupid.

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Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

@WandererUber@poa.st remote

@Verfassungsschmutz @s2208 @weknowwhygary all you need to do is get them drunk and use girls that can look 18 which is incidentally what he did

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@Verfassungsschmutz@nicecrew.digital remote

Someone who's dumb enough to allow themselves to get compromised around people without having them compromise themselves as well isn't going to make it very far in this business.

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weknowwhygary

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The problem here is assuming that the people involved are thinking about things in these terms. The people striving for power and wealth, and getting invited to the orgy island, are assumed to have this arithmetic of compromise and leverage on their minds, as though they are always cognizant of being perpetually "in the ring," and that's probably not the case.

We react like, "you fell for it? you got invited to rape island and didn't think there would be cameras?" Correct. That's not what they were thinking. They were thinking, "pussy."

It reminds me of the discussion about Enoch I had with @tyler and Rubeus years ago. Rubeus didn't think it made sense that Enoch would sell his entire inheritance for a bowl of soup without some other details to explain it (it wouldn't make sense that these strivers would get caught in the rape-cam trap so easily), but Tyler argued, yeah that makes perfect sense. People make those kinds of stupid short sighted decisions all day long (people get tunnel (pussy)-vision all the time).

You get done eating that bowl of soup and pretty quickly realize you weren't thinking clearly about the deal you made.

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Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

@WandererUber@poa.st remote

@weknowwhygary @Verfassungsschmutz @s2208 @tyler there's also the fact that no normal person ever would ask for ID when he's invited to a private yacht party

like imagine being a millionaire, having been to hundreds of parties and someone goes "urm are these girls all eighteen?" Who would even ask that? Nobody.
They're not going in with the expectation that they are being entrapped, they just want to party. They probably don't even know that Epstein "hired" (trafficked) all the girls, necessarily.
This is very easy to pull off and the feds do it to people they don't like all the time btw. That Ghost Gunner guy comes to mind