With the LG thing happening I was going to post something like "use a cheap PC and a computer monitor", but realized that's not accessible to many.
Do "dumb" TVs even exist?
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@MuseumJoe Check Goodwill.
@drwho @MuseumJoe there are strong questions about whether or not the LG thing is even happening. I didn't watch the video (2 hours? ain't got no time for that), but this guy breaks down why they didn't really prove anything at all and likely misunderstand basic functionality. The Automatic Content Recognition is real, but the rest might not be. And the "we own the glass" statement wasn't even said by anyone at LG??
"It's scanning your network" -- no that's just mDNS / SSDP
"It's recording your voice to text" -- they just showed logs when you use voice search. "But it's always listening" -- yeah it supports a wake word like "Alexa" -- the default is “Hi LG".
https://leaflet.pub/p/did:plc:yhgc5rlqhoezrx6fbawajxlh/3muwrqenzfk2n
"It's scanning your network" -- no that's just mDNS / SSDP
"It's recording your voice to text" -- they just showed logs when you use voice search. "But it's always listening" -- yeah it supports a wake word like "Alexa" -- the default is “Hi LG".
https://leaflet.pub/p/did:plc:yhgc5rlqhoezrx6fbawajxlh/3muwrqenzfk2n
@feld @drwho @MuseumJoe
>And the "we own the glass" statement wasn't even said by anyone at LG??
Not by anyone at LG Electronics, which is subsidiary of LG Corporation which owns a controlling majority in LG Ad Solutions, which does the ACR.
Overall I recommend watching it, but there isn't really much new. Put it in the background.
>And the "we own the glass" statement wasn't even said by anyone at LG??
Not by anyone at LG Electronics, which is subsidiary of LG Corporation which owns a controlling majority in LG Ad Solutions, which does the ACR.
Overall I recommend watching it, but there isn't really much new. Put it in the background.
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@phnt @drwho @MuseumJoe the only gross thing they do is ACR. But everyone does ACR. Can you turn it off? yes. I can in my Sony Bravia, it's a service/software from https://Samba.tv which you can disable if you dig into the settings.
@feld @drwho @MuseumJoe Basically everything in that video isn't exclusive to LG. ACR, preselecting "Agree to all" checkboxes to TOS/privacy policy agreements. Scanning the network for devices, or even scanning nearby wifi networks. Heck, everyone's phone does the latter to provide the coarse location services which is based on cell towers and WiFi networks.
@phnt @feld @drwho @MuseumJoe I don't hook up my tv so I don't get ads for bullshit when I wanna turn it on