Zanzibart, forgive me...
Never forget. You are always just one email away from having your ideological prophet fuck bitches on your couch.
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@newt im sure some of the people on twkn would love for this to happen to them, nevermind the gnu jihadist
@kirby actually, @SuperDicq hosted 
once. But he passionately denies there were any hookers involved.
once. But he passionately denies there were any hookers involved.
@newt@stereophonic.space @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org I didn't host him myself, but I did stay at the same place where rms and a bunch of other GNU people were staying. I also drove rms around Switzerland for a few hours.
@SuperDicq @kirby see? Still in denial.
@newt@stereophonic.space @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org Yes, no hookers of course. He was with Dora Scilipoti.
I also don't really believe the story OP is talking about either. Are there any sources to back this up? That behavior seems very unlike Stallman to me.
@SuperDicq @newt @kirby multiple people that have attacked rms exposed that they consider it moral to lie about him to bring him down. well, now I don't believe any of them anymore.
@sun @kirby @SuperDicq @newt miguel de icaza worked for ms until 2022
@bonifartius@noauthority.social @sun@shitposter.world @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org @newt@stereophonic.space Oh right it's that Miguel de Icaza. I knew I recognized the name from somewhere.
Whatever he says he is definitely not someone who is to be trusted.
@bonifartius@noauthority.social @sun@shitposter.world @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org @newt@stereophonic.space I know Miguel is "the founder" of a bunch of notable free software projects.
But I also don't have very high opinion of the "founder" type people who only are here to "found" projects and then immediately leave to go "found" something and instead of actually sticking with the thing and growing it to fulfillment.
@SuperDicq @sun @kirby @bonifartius huh? What would be "fulfilment" in case of say GNOME? He spent a good three years working on it, before switching to Xamarin/mono/other C# stuff for over two decades before leaving it in 2022. Seems quite fulfilling here.
@newt@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org @bonifartius@noauthority.social Have you used GNOME 1.0?
@newt@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org @bonifartius@noauthority.social I mean I get it though. Yes he made sure it was completed to version 1.0 which can count as "fulfillment", but it is very different from people like Stallman who dedicate their entire life to the movement instead of just a few years and then move on to something else.
@SuperDicq @sun @kirby @bonifartius
>Have you used GNOME 1.0?
Only briefly a few years ago, as a historic curiosity. Seemed consistent with other UIs of the time, like KDE 1 or Windows 98/2000. Sorry, I don't buy the idea that one must maintain his software into eternity. There's more fun to be had in this world.
Then again, I'm not sure what has done other than writing emails, giving speeches, and maintaining Emacs. He certainly hasn't succeeded in giving birth to any kind of GNU OS or a free (as in speech) computer of any kind.
>Have you used GNOME 1.0?
Only briefly a few years ago, as a historic curiosity. Seemed consistent with other UIs of the time, like KDE 1 or Windows 98/2000. Sorry, I don't buy the idea that one must maintain his software into eternity. There's more fun to be had in this world.
Then again, I'm not sure what
has done other than writing emails, giving speeches, and maintaining Emacs. He certainly hasn't succeeded in giving birth to any kind of GNU OS or a free (as in speech) computer of any kind.
@newt @kirby @SuperDicq @sun he wrote gcc
@bonifartius @kirby @SuperDicq @sun and then abandoned it in favour of other projects, just like what SuperDicq accuses de Icaza of.
@newt@stereophonic.space @bonifartius@noauthority.social @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org @sun@shitposter.world Just because Stallman is no longer a programmer doesn't mean he has abandoned it. He is still Chief GNUisance the leader of the GNU Project.
Abandoning it like Miguel would mean he now would go around suggesting people should use MSVC instead.
@SuperDicq @sun @kirby @bonifartius he mostly abandoned GCC by the early to mid 90s. Also, he did enough damage to the project that a lot of people switched to LLVM.
@newt@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org @bonifartius@noauthority.social People switched to LLVM because they are proprietary software lackeys that don't want to abide by copyleft and give other people the same freedom they have.
@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius
give other people the same freedom they have.
GNU isn't about freedom, it's about forcing restrictions on everybody else.
@phnt@fluffytail.org @newt@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org @bonifartius@noauthority.social Telling others to pass on the same freedoms that they have is not a restriction, silly.
@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius s/telling/forcing
Read the license, it is not a choice.
@phnt@fluffytail.org @newt@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org @bonifartius@noauthority.social You shouldn't be allowed to take other people's freedom away. For reasons things like murder are illegal.
@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius Correct, I should have freedom to use your software however I want and do whatever I want with it. But GPL is not compatible with that, owner of the copyright is a dictator that forces restrictions on how the software is used, modified and distributed.
@phnt@fluffytail.org @newt@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org @bonifartius@noauthority.social Copyleft is not a restriction, it is freedom preservation.
If you were already doing the right in the first place (making free software), the GPL doesn't do anything.
@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius mental gymnastics
@SuperDicq @bonifartius @kirby @newt @sun Let's take your thinking exactly as you say. License everything under OpenWatcom/Sybase. If you are writing free software already, you intend to share it with the public right? Isn't that what everybody should be doing, sharing their code?
@phnt@fluffytail.org @bonifartius@noauthority.social @kirby@fsebugoutzone.org @newt@stereophonic.space @sun@shitposter.world No, of course not, the Sybase Open Watcom Public License is a nonfree license. It has actual restrictions unlike the GPLv3 where it for example requires you make all your changes public.
@SuperDicq @newt @sun @kirby @bonifartius So when a license has stronger freedom preservation and protection, it's suddenly no free. Alright.
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