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@pancake delta chat doesn't feel native on Android and iOS for you? Or do you mean desktop platforms?

@pancake @delta the core is just a JSON-RPC service with a very approachable API. All you have to focus on really is the UI. If you have the time/skills/interest in pursuing such an experiment the hard parts (backend/crypto/protocols) are already done for you.

@delta correct, on iOS, the app is not using the iOS26 liquid glass widgets and the icons, animations, etc.. look clunky, i don't use Android, but i can say similar things about gnome and macos ux

@feld yep i know, i have already contributed to delta. but i already maintain tons of opensource projects and i don't wanna put more job in my table :D

@pancake this is one of those situations where I think there should be a competition. One week, build a new client around the core. Best submission wins $1000 or something. Don't care if you vibe code most of it, just make something.

@pancake wasn't liquid glass only introduced last year from apple?

@delta @pancake yeah but remember the "premium" apps all get updated to the latest iOS standards quickly after WWDC, tested on the iOS betas, and ready in the app store the instant the new major iOS release happens.


honestly that sounds like torture to me because of how much Apple changes every major update

@feld @delta deltachat for iOS is written in Swift, but it’s not yer using the liquidglass widgets for whatever reason. The git is 6 releases ahead of the one in the appstore. There’s a testflight link in github. But from what it reads in the commits seems like there’s some plans for liquidglass. The desktop version is just “electron” afaik.

@pancake @delta I dream of a world where developers don't have to "use the Liquid Glass widgets" and the OS makes this happen automatically 😑