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Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

america's over but I still liked the idea

Pasty White Man

@pwm@darkdork.dev remote

@sun mass media let us speed run the final 200 years of empire in about 50

pistolero

@p@fsebugoutzone.org remote

@pwm @sun It's a mistake to confuse a people with a government.

Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

@p @pwm I still like a lot of americans but the culture is in decline too

pistolero

@p@fsebugoutzone.org remote

@sun @pwm It turns out that if you stop watching the news and you discard everything ever said by some rich kid on Youtube, your opinion on this completely reverses.
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Blurry Moon

@sun@shitposter.world remote

@p @pwm ok man like I havent seen my entire hometown decay before my eyes and worsen every single time I go back. you can find individual exceptions everywhere but there's a trend

Pasty White Man

@pwm@darkdork.dev remote

@sun @p middle America was strip mined by urbanites of worthy humanity and left it a shell of itself, yes.
You got scooped up and out, case in point. Ditto my parents. There is now no "family home" per se, just a series of domiciles.

pistolero

@p@fsebugoutzone.org remote

@pwm @sun You think that's what happened or that boomers elected people that killed industry? I don't remember strip-mining small towns but I do remember the erosion of any economic opportunity outside the cities while welfare propped up dying towns that would have evaporated instead of remaining in the slow-death trap.
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Pasty White Man

@pwm@darkdork.dev remote

@p @sun I was using "strip mining of worthy humanity" to refer by metaphor to the force that took my mom and every intelligent person she grew up with out of rural Alabama and into the relatively big city for an education and work. We are referring to the same thing there
I'm afraid I wasn't here to diagnose the exactly How, but the desert I come from, consisting of only those not worthy enough or not opportunistically minded enough to get out is there. I only grew up in the What that was left.
It's reasonable to assume that my forbears failed me somehow by breaking the great chain of existence in some nebulous way but, while I can draw upon experience to ponder the wasteland, I can't do this for what led up to it. Neither can you, I don't think.

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@mrsaturday@shitposter.world remote

@pwm @p @sun Rural America died because technology made it so there were far less people needed in order to keep the farms producing. That and we never actually recovered from the 1980s farm crisis, and you have parasites like Monsanto that are tying farmers down into exploitative contracts.

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pistolero

@p@fsebugoutzone.org remote

@mrsaturday @pwm @sun Technology didn't do it, "we need to move all manufacturing to the third world" did.