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it's becoming apparent that we have like 5 classes of LLM haters

- the environmental fearmongering types who can't math

- the people who mistakenly think copyright is good for society and innovation and believe all output is somehow a stolen string of code

- the developers who are really into the compsci side and want all code to be perfect and concise (commendable, but unrealistic; these are the folks who should live in the university/research sector)

- the autistics who like the "puzzle" of chasing errors, diving into a debugger for hours on end and somehow derive joy from this

- the autistics who want to build a community around every git repo because their only friends are on the internet

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@mischievoustomato @sun what they don't want you to know is that most datacenter designs are using closed loop water cooling systems. They're not just sucking up the entire water table and then pissing it back out into the sewer.

but when you point this out, they'll retort that this is also still bad because you have to use electricity to power these closed loops systems, the chillers, the heat ex changers, etc, so the power footprint of the datacenter goes up a bit.

And when the usage goes up, our power plants have to make more electricity. But a lot of our power plants are based around turbines, so we're using more power to make more electricity.

They're literally just angry that we have to make more electricity and that means more water. But we will always be using more electricity, so we'll probably always be using more water.

These people don't really understand what they're asking for. We can't freeze the world in this moment and we are unlikely to regress. What, you want to go back to the electricity usage of 1920s to save some water? A whole lot of people gonna die then

edit: and the people that die? it's gonna be the impoverished and minority groups you want to protect