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@troed
As a human, when we do that "inference" we also train on the way.
Note that LLMs don't do that.
We are seriously projecting humanized view on this Neural Networks, into which lots of Internet's content was condensed/distilled into.
Heck, please point me to place with explicit model of anything in LLMs. You, a human, have it. LLMs just don't have this code.
These are Large Language Condensates. Very good for guessing.

@david_chisnall @hfalcke

@hfalcke
Unfortunately, guesses are picked up as gospels, or more or less good advice from human pro.
But it is a guess without modicum of check with reality.
Do you know why all of a sudden these agentic things are good with coding, like json output? Injected parsers. Read injected reality checks.
But. Without nuances of implementation public is sold that there is an improvement of an underlying LLM guesser.

The smoke is the problem.

@troed @david_chisnall

@CountHoldem @nixCraft
Sodium is best for grid batteries.

@ArthurClemens @nixCraft @tdp_org
These are much smaller operations, which translates into margins.

@filippo
Is it a rush to add new crypto, cause quantum computers finally show up,
or, is it a rush to remove known reliable non-pq crypto like ecc?

Given pushes around forced id-collection it feels like later. Cause I haven't seen pictures of actually running quantum computers.

@sun @feld
... support of quantum labs by buying this?
More direct funding would be more efficient in my opinion.

@feld
I personally had a glass of wine at IQC openning. Institute for Quantum Computing that is. 20+ years ago? ...

There was heuristic argument about too much quantum clean state and dicoherence. I've stopped waiting for quantum computer.

General public doesn't quite grasp a physical meaning of physicists' words, that we don't get quantum, despite all these calculations.

This is what you also discuss in quantum computation class ... before opening IQC.

@feld
You mean hilarious that these arguments need to be addressed. This hypotheticals need to be addressed.
Isn't that arguing thingy? Just arguing. But in absence of counter arguments, the ... high commitees 👀 will say pq is enough, reducing everyone's ... strenth of signal, if I may.

@feld
My understanding is that this noise is about djb questioning removal of hybrid ecc+post_quantum public key encryption.

djb is arguing to keep Signal's current approach, cause it is more conservative, safer in more pissible scenarios of future developments, than using only post_quantum, as math dust hasn't settled.

You sit on a branch called Signal. djb argues to not cut this branch.
👀

@feld
Very conservative in security, and with imprinted memory of the 1st crypto war's shots, fired ... through his life.

Now, what are relative sizes of ecc vs pq keys, and what are relative computational requirements?

Wierdo needing a reality based arguments, not socially-based ones. Unlike normies?

@feld
isn't that a false choice?
Rethorical, nice, cute, false choice.
Like monopolism vs communism, in both only handful really control everything, yielding similar internal no-oxigen situation.

Let's pry the sides for more room in between, where my current Framework laptop currently is.

@geerlingguy
Do you want your child to ask company for permission to create apps for others?
If so, don't promote Apple, for children's future sake, litterally here, litterally.

@feld @sun
Is this an advertizing for Rust ? The only thing that can be long-lived.
😁

@wackJackle @adapalmer
Since it is about info distribution logistics, about logistic bridges, we should see trolls under them. Look, Big Tech.

@wackJackle @adapalmer
Little nugget: mass produced commodity needs distribution.

Interesting modern direction: mass produced 3D printers to let people produce artisanal-scale whatever/artifacts.