both transphobia and homophobia are rooted in misogyny regardless of birth sex
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@georgia in my personal opinion and perspective.
homophobia is more of a fear your same-sex/same-gender entities hitting on you, and in male case specifically the inmost fear of anal penetration (fecal fear). transphobia is kinda related but more complicated than that, it's literally falls into the "it's a trap" meme, which is kind of a shame, but overall it all comes down to "penetrate or be penetrated" and the precise subject of penetration (anal vs vaginal).
from female perspective (in my imagination) it's really more about female competition for males, again this is my (retarded) understanding that women see each other as inherent rivals, so yuri (female homosexuality) seems very contradictory to instinct, and transfems seem like even more competition.
all in all it's all just fucking retarded and i want to get out.
homophobia is more of a fear your same-sex/same-gender entities hitting on you, and in male case specifically the inmost fear of anal penetration (fecal fear). transphobia is kinda related but more complicated than that, it's literally falls into the "it's a trap" meme, which is kind of a shame, but overall it all comes down to "penetrate or be penetrated" and the precise subject of penetration (anal vs vaginal).
from female perspective (in my imagination) it's really more about female competition for males, again this is my (retarded) understanding that women see each other as inherent rivals, so yuri (female homosexuality) seems very contradictory to instinct, and transfems seem like even more competition.
all in all it's all just fucking retarded and i want to get out.
@hj while youre right that a lot of homophobia against men is fear of being penetrated its moreso fear of being emasculated in general. your understanding of lesbophobia is wrong in my opinion. the idea is that women shouldnt "act like men" because women are inferior and thus can't be superior men, and that qualities which are good in men ruin women. all homophobia and transphobia are imo is "natal males/AMABS can't be/act like women because women are bad" and "natal females/AFABS can't be/act like men because women are bad." so in both cases, misogyny.
@georgia
I have always felt strong misogyny AND misandry directed towards me when folks are acting transphobic. They hate me on both counts because they're applying their biases against both to me. For this reason, although not this reason alone, I find both misogyny and misandry to be intolerable, and unfortunately, misandry is not taken as seriously as it should be.
@hj
I have always felt strong misogyny AND misandry directed towards me when folks are acting transphobic. They hate me on both counts because they're applying their biases against both to me. For this reason, although not this reason alone, I find both misogyny and misandry to be intolerable, and unfortunately, misandry is not taken as seriously as it should be.
@hj
@stickers @hj this is true about many lesbian transfemme-excluding feminists but most terfs these days are married mumsnet types, not spinsters or lesbians. they use rhetoric which suggests they hate men talking about male violence and rape and male criminality but they rely on cis men to enforce transphobic policies and they are devoted to their husbands and male children.
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