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@Erato_Heti @patchuun women who like being hurt very often self-abnegate in other ways, revelling in being humiliated and treated like sexual objects. the personal is very political and women as a class suffer from the perception of women like these being the norm. honestly I would argue that trans women in particular suffer from this given things like bimboification and sissy porn which promote the worst forms of degraded womanhood.
@Erato_Heti @patchuun try some honest self critique for a bit. women live under patriarchy which has constructed a masochistic and submissive sexuality for them. if a significant cohort of african slaves living under white supremacy fetishized their own enslavement, I would say they hurt african slaves as a class.
@georgia @patchuun im going to self critique myself by saying you are deeply lost in the sauce and trying to delicately explain to you this stuff is a waste of time. Youre being ignorant and deeply alienating most of the women you claim to speak for. Men dont want us to have any sexual mores outside thier modus on control point blank end of story. Anything we do for us is for us. Goodbye.

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