Egregoros

episcopalian: “yeahh versus populum isnt perfect”
canadian anglo-catholic: “this is why we should do it ad orientum”
episcopalian: “ehhh ad orientum has its issues too. some might take it to mean the priest is superior”
me: “i understand. this is why we need north-facing liturgy”
(nobody can argue with me bc thats the english reformation tradition)

@lizzie

versus populum - facing the congregation
ad orientum - to the east (biblically supported)
north facing - innovation
ad romanum - American catholics face rome.

Ah yes, christian qibla discourse.

i like how muslims used to face jerusalem when the prophet mohammed was still around and he only changed it to mecca due to some schism with the local jews

CC: @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

@zuki @lizzie

If you compare Islam with Arianite Christianity, it's rediculously similar. And Khadija's uncle was an Arianite monk. I don't think that's a coincidence.

@technicallydifficult @lizzie @zuki I like monarchian modalism myself