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holy shit you can get batteries now (100kwh total) which are sodium ion and will last the next 30 years -- this is enough to power your whole house -- for less than $6000

there's almost no excuse to not install your own battery system now and get solar

@feld uh, you do realise a lot of people can't just spend $6,000 on a whim, right?

@lw that's what banks are for. Do you have a house? They'll give you the loan. Home equity loans are so easy to get. And your payments will be lower than your electric bill was.

@feld ??? no of course i don't own a house. no one owns a house. literally only incredibly rich people are able to own houses nowadays.

@lw a mortgage counts as "owning", and not only "rich" people own a house

we have these signs up everywhere in the USA

@feld i'm well aware of what a mortgage is. no one has a mortgage nowadays. literally, most people under 50 years of age cannot own a house, we do not have the money, we cannot afford it.