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@cjd @ZeroSum06 @Sherri_Ingrey
The Bible doesn't even have to be fact, you just have to not be a retard with the interpretation.

An atheist might read Cain amd Abel and think "omg Christians so violent."

An evangelical can read the exact same story and only see the human tragedy.

A normal person reads it and realizes that power lies with the first guy to pick up and use the jawbone.
@cjd @ZeroSum06 I had a mother that dragged me to High Anglican services until I balked completely when I was 13 but I had been teaching Sunday School since 11 - I was a bit precocious, I started high school at 13. I haven''t been invested in religion since then, 60 years ago. But I studied on my own comparative religions because I was interested in how much women and children were "worth" in them.
@cjd @ZeroSum06 When I was young, I spent 5 months in Spain. I LOVED Barcelona, even more than Paris. I met a Spanish doctor a beautiful man from a rich family that marketed dialysis machines, he wanted to marry me and have me work France and the UK for him. But Spain - a married woman couldn't hold property in 1978. So I refused. I could have thought that through better. I could have married him in Canada, got right to abode in the UK because three of my grandparents and my father were born in Britain, and had an ENTIRELY different life. I was just about to start my legal career in Canada, which turned out to be as anti climatic as it goes, but whatever. The choices we make.