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@JoshuaSlocum you are the type of person to assume someone gets into construction because he "likes sweaty dudes doing work" or whatever
maybe you just have some wires crossed. exhaustion and humiliation, tests of unflinching endurance, are really not associated with sex in my brain. idk maybe you would say learning how to march in formation is also gay. many modern men have complexes like that, especially boomers
@JoshuaSlocum Why do you think of sex when you see a dank basement or a shirtless dude?
Regardless, the point remains. I foolishly assumed you would engage in good faith with the underlying observation. My mistake. I will walk you through it below!

There is an interesting argument, probably only similar, not 1:1, though, I once heard: There are countries like Kazakhstan where it is illegal to be gay and therefore gayness just does not exist in the public consciousness. If a man brings another man a flower in such a country, there isn't even a thought spent of it. Because being a faggot doesn't even cross their minds.
There are countries where men give each other a kiss on the cheek (to each their own, I am too germanic autism for this) and other countries make fun of them for it. There are also those that say it is gay to hug a man.

I personally think it is gay to be gay and it's not that deep. That's why I asked if you maybe have some complex... What even is the connection?

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