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@restful @cjd @caekislove >>Weren't the Irainians supplying Russia with drones for Ukraine?

Initially until the Russians started manufacturing their own version, which they have massively improved, the Russians are now experimenting with miniature jet engines, missile launch systems and more, I won't be surprised if they have passed back some of the new designs to the Iranians.

PalePimp

@restful @cjd @caekislove Confirmed.

>>🇷🇺🇮🇷Suddenly, the Russian jamming-resistant receiver “Komet-M” was found in the wreckage of the Iranian kamikaze drone Shahed-136, which attacked the British Air Force airbase “Akrotiri” in Cyprus.

>>Similar "Komet" systems are installed on drones, bombs, and missiles that strike targets in Ukraine.

>>Apparently, improvements to the original Iranian drones have been transferred back to Russia. This is an extremely interesting moment, if it's true - finally, Russia has an opportunity to indirectly retaliate for all the weapons supplies to Ukraine from the West.

Caleb James DeLisle

Supply Iran, push up the price of oil, mire the US in a middle eastern conflict creating an open lane in eastern Europe...

Some decisions just make themselves...

Based Lunatic

@cjd @caekislove @restful @PalePimp I got a feeling this is going to be long lasting, I don't think anyone backing down. With so many downsides for US you have to wonder if US would actually nuke themselves in interest of Israel, obviously they wouldn't, but is there any limit to US acting against their own interest for a foreign country

Caleb James DeLisle

Out of all the parties, the US is probably the least interested. But the only way out is to just walk away from the middle east, which means walking away from the US empire.

It's plausible that Trump may have started this because he wants to destroy the empire now rather than let it collapse later. The Swamp is built on top of the empire, and destroying it now will destroy his enemies before they can destroy him. It's a long shot but it's not utterly impossible.

More plausible that Israel would like to kill the US empire in order to ascend to power in the middle east.

Caleb James DeLisle

Now as soon as the US starts to flounder, Israel is going to NEED to step up in a big way, in order to achieve their strategic objectives.

Something I think has a very high likelihood of happening is Israel declares:
1. All Jews are Israeli citizens
2. All Israeli citizens are required to serve in the military
3. Therefore all Jews are required to report to Israel immediately to begin training

And cynical European governments will take one look at this and say "By George, he's right!"

Based Lunatic

@cjd @caekislove @restful @PalePimp are they planning to make it so bad to just justify nuking Iran

Caleb James DeLisle

Nukes won't do anything against the Iranian combatants, they're not in Tehran. This war is going to be fighting Iranian hillbillies in the mountains. Nuking mountains is just a fast way to use up all of your nukes.

However, if they introduce nuclear warfare into the equation, then it allows Russia and North Korea to supply the Iranians, which is HELL because Israel, KSA, UAE, etc are all FULL of high value targets.

Based Lunatic

@cjd @caekislove @restful @PalePimp this looks like a major civilization serious event

PalePimp

@Dicey @caekislove @restful @cjd Yep, it has the hallmarks.

Remember, Israel is militarily indefensible, it is too small and barely has any natural barriers. They exist because of their parasitism of the USA.

Caleb James DeLisle

Bad terrain but quite good military, would not count them out.

Based Lunatic

@cjd @caekislove @restful @PalePimp I meant Iran can't be beaten, they can move around everywhere, you can't reach them

Replying to @Dicey@clew.lol

PalePimp

@Dicey @caekislove @restful @cjd One doesn't need an AI, anybody with a modicum of culture knows the Persians were never conquered, the country is a fortress. They have had minor occupations during WWII by the Russians, but that's about it.

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Based Lunatic

@PalePimp @caekislove @restful @cjd yeah, I just pay for AI so may as well use it

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PalePimp

@UnityOstara@poa.st remote

@Dicey @caekislove @restful @cjd Oh no worries, fren, didn't meant it as a hostility, I meant it as an affirmation that it is completely obvious that Iran is one of the worst places to conduct a land war.

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UnityOstara

@Dicey @PalePimp @caekislove @restful @cjd I was originally against AI but it helps finding obscure 90's industrial songs.

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PalePimp

@UnityOstara @Dicey @caekislove @restful @cjd Google used to work well for any search right until they borked it so you would read more ads and later made it spew AI summaries, which for now more or less work but will be made worse again once the tech is established/entrenched, because enshitification.

My advice is don't rely too much on AI and use your brain.

Summaries from a machine about a topic one doesn't have understanding of won't make you understand the topic.

I used chatgpt a week ago upon the insistence of a colleague and it spewed a configuration that would have borked a server. Thanks but no thanks.

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Based Lunatic