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@pepsi_man@poa.st @Nils@poa.st

the irony is that "retard babies are good actually, test of faith and all that" is actually a bvsed divine-command-theory take that actually works in functioning high-trust societies when retard babies are rare. and the church raises love gifts every Sunday morning

retard babies are not rare, not like in generations past

and the love-gift offerings are depleted very quickly in the real world

They chose the most viable embryo and let you choose the sex (weight of male embryo in VERY early stage is slightly lower from Y chromosome being smaller). The remaining embryos are often used for science experiments or other things. The moral question is whether or not killing or using the embryos for Science is immoral or unethical, and the debate over when human life actually begins. The selection aspect is one of the things that makes IVF so sketchy— how do we know that one of the other 8 eggs wouldn’t have taken and maybe it would have been perfectly healthy without genetic malformation. I don’t want to get lost in the details here, but I don’t like IVF.

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AFAIK the problem is they have a really high failure rate. In many cases they plant 8 and none take.

The problem is this is a motte and bailey.

The motte is some couple that wants to get pregnant or some woman that got raped and now is carrying a halfbreed , or downs syndrome, or mother's health, etc.

The bailey is "we're killing babies for Baal yaaaay" - and IMO anyone who is involved in abortion and says something like that SHOULD just be taken at their word and charged with murder 1.