I said this back when windows 10 came out and "offered" Microsoft logins while also having an always-on keylogger but the government will 100% check who logs in and checks what they do on their OS. California wants to force this on Linux even (impossible lol). Stop using windows 11 for anything but your office job you retards
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@teto the law says you have to ask for age on account setup and have to have an API for applications to get the age of the current user, things that Linux already has
@teto strictly speaking the law requires age brackets which linux doesn't support but any application can just get the exact birthday of a user
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@sun aha so Linux users will scan they ID in to "create a user" on Gentoo. Sure bro
@teto you can read the bill it is super short and doesn't require any of the shit that so-called tech journalism is saying it has
@sun@shitposter.world @teto@cawfee.club why would this apply to linux? i thought it applied towards operating systems.
@lolitechengineer @teto it would apply to l,inux distributions not to the bare kernel you are correct
@lolitechengineer @sun it won't apply to Linux. It's impossible to do the Microsoft style account shit there.
@teto @lolitechengineer the /etc/passwd scheme already can hold a birthday
@sun @lolitechengineer the shit a government expects to be provided here is not a simple text file on your computer. Whatever think what you want
@teto @lolitechengineer I read the bill.
maybe they will vote on more changes in the future
but the bill that got passed doesn't have that.
maybe they will vote on more changes in the future
but the bill that got passed doesn't have that.
@teto@cawfee.club @sun@shitposter.world none of this really matters. no reasonable person would reside in california anyway. nothing of value is lost.
@lolitechengineer @teto yeah realistically this only applies to os companies that have a legal presence in california or are a contractor or vendor for california.
@sun @lolitechengineer @teto assuming the MidnightBSD approach becomes widespread, doing business in colofornia could require the use of MacOS or Windows.
@jeremiah @lolitechengineer @teto this is a problem that could affect freebsd but not likely any other bsd
@lolitechengineer @sun the elites always beta test these things somewhere and then roll it out everywhere else in the west. First with social media now with operating systems
@teto @lolitechengineer fwiw I am opposed to the bill because yeah it is the first brick in the wall but its worth saying that journalists are basically fucking stupid
@teto @lolitechengineer @sun I mean, if you really think about it, itโs impossible to implement this with any amount of reliability unless you require biometric authentication AND NOTHING ELSE (and that wonโt work because consumer level biometric shit is nowhere near reliable enough to not have a fallback).
As soon as your account has a password (or a hardware token) you can log in with, it could really be anyone using it. Even if they manage to enforce this somehow, and Microjeet accommodates, itโll likely just lead to a massive black market for age-verified MS accounts.
As soon as your account has a password (or a hardware token) you can log in with, it could really be anyone using it. Even if they manage to enforce this somehow, and Microjeet accommodates, itโll likely just lead to a massive black market for age-verified MS accounts.
@Verfassungsschmutz @teto @lolitechengineer they said the purpose is simply that application developers have a number they are obligated to trust. in fact you as an application developer are not allowed to try to derive a "real" age outside what the OS provides, so it actually prevents relying on an external service if you implement it, currently
Shit linux impls like Ubuntu and Fedora will probably implement something. Everyone else will just ignore it like as if California is gonna sue them. Most of them offer the downloads from Europe anyway.
In other news: Did you know VLC violates a shitload of software patents? They're based in France which doesn't honor software patents so they don't care.
In other news: Did you know VLC violates a shitload of software patents? They're based in France which doesn't honor software patents so they don't care.
@cjd @lolitechengineer @sun we will just get whichever Linux is hosted in a country that doesn't care. I bet flatpaks work on Red Star OS
And then Cali won't have the balls to do anything.
Remember when [I forgot who] went after yt-dl's github repo and an epic shitstorm ensued?
Remember when [I forgot who] went after yt-dl's github repo and an epic shitstorm ensued?
@teto @lolitechengineer @cjd @sun
And then the backbone operators residing in Ireland have to comply ans make DPI/reroutes.
That idea is dead. We need an I2P-like, any-thing anywhere routable network in parallel.
Meh, big doubt on that one.
1. It doesn't do a damn bit of good because someone stands up a website and lets people register with a random email and start shitposting, suddenly all of that cool IP address stuff is useless because you have to go bother him for the logs, which he may or may not even keep...
2. People are lazy, the world isn't even getting off of IPv4, let alone some kind of personal ID based IPv6.
1. It doesn't do a damn bit of good because someone stands up a website and lets people register with a random email and start shitposting, suddenly all of that cool IP address stuff is useless because you have to go bother him for the logs, which he may or may not even keep...
2. People are lazy, the world isn't even getting off of IPv4, let alone some kind of personal ID based IPv6.
@cjd @teto @lolitechengineer @CapitalB we're a long way from that level of control but it's on the roadmap and little steps like this get us there
@cjd @CapitalB @lolitechengineer @teto btw they will shore up the lack of technical ability with awful puishments for circumvention first, it will just take time
Oh it's undoubtedly what They Want, it's just that reality has a nasty habit of getting in the way of Their Plans.
@cjd @teto @lolitechengineer @CapitalB in this particular time I think they have a shot so we should be extra careful right now but opinions may differ
@cjd @teto @lolitechengineer usgov has tried to apply several laws to openbsd and they just laugh in canadian
They will dongle UEFI and require a smarcard, while the public key for IPv6 will be drived from the smartcard to connect to the ISP. Or so. Autists can fuck off: This general idea will be impemented.
There will be a FLOSS solution for the MUH OPEN SOURCE CUCKS/IDIOTS/NรRDS
I am so fed up.
@CapitalB @teto @lolitechengineer maybe it will but if they want to do it they'll have to pass new legislation because it's not in this one.