Tempted to write a "What is Fedi" blog post explaining how wanting to have builtin automated blocklists and "trust and safety" features won't fly with almost every Fedi server dev out there. So I can then send it to every post I see about users wanting this and get yelled at for being XYZ.
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@phnt Aren't those features already in the process of being added to almost every fedi server? GoToSocial and a number of others already have block list subscriptions
@silverpill GTS can do it by I think importing remote CSV files, Mastodon has their FIRES grant. Those are the only two implementations I'm aware of doings this and they are nothing compared to tens of others. If you don't account for install base that is.
@phnt There is more
The first that comes to mind: https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/blob/trunk/includes/class-blocklist-subscriptions.php
I remember seeing other devs promising to implement automated import
@silverpill Did you know that this apparently exists?
https://github.com/swicg/activitypub-trust-and-safety/
https://github.com/swicg/activitypub-trust-and-safety/
@phnt Yes, this is probably the most active SWICG task force, they even got funding from NLNet recently: https://github.com/swicg/activitypub-trust-and-safety/discussions/144
@phnt The work plan seems to be relatively benign, though:
GtS interaction controls, flagging, blocking, best practices.
Automated filtering was voted down.
@silverpill It's not like much can be done anyway, decentralization and some "funny" admins running malicious instances turn that effort upside down. Similarly how BitTorrent still wasn't moderated and regulated into oblivion with how much pirated content is on it.
At least semi-standardized Flag/Block will be a nice thing unless they go "implementations MUST prevent blocked users from viewing blockee's posts". Interaction controls are meh. And automated filtering will probably end up there someday after the frog is boiled for a little longer.
At least semi-standardized Flag/Block will be a nice thing unless they go "implementations MUST prevent blocked users from viewing blockee's posts". Interaction controls are meh. And automated filtering will probably end up there someday after the frog is boiled for a little longer.
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