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European Commission

@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu remote
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It is for parents to raise their children. Not platforms.

The European Age Verification App is ready.

It will allow users to prove their age when accessing online platforms. Just like shops ask for proof of age for people buying alcoholic beverages.

And it ticks all the boxes:
✅ Highest privacy standards in the world
✅ Works on any device
✅ Easy to use
✅ Fully open source

More info: https://link.europa.eu/HmnrJc

SummerOf68

SummerOf68

@SummerOf68@social.vivaldi.net remote
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@raccoon no, the EU app just reads the age information of your ID or passport. It's open source, any programmer can check it's realy this way. Maximal security, maximal privacy, maximal transparency!

Or you realy want your children to grow up watching hardcore rape scenes just clicking "are you 18 yo and older? Yes or no?" on portals, thinking this is normal?

This solution is a small compromise and doesn't hurt!

Phantasm

Phantasm

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@SummerOf68 @raccoon
>Or you realy want your children to grow up watching hardcore rape scenes just clicking "are you 18 yo and older? Yes or no?" on portals, thinking this is normal?

If your kid decides to do that and you didn't put any barriers for your kid to do that, it is only your fault and you can blame only yourself as a failed parent. Period.
SummerOf68

SummerOf68

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@phnt @raccoon wrong, you live in Lalaland kids can be controled whole day and don't look for ways to pass parents control.
That's the reason children can't buy alcohol or tabaco, a practice that's usual and nobody discusses. If the seller don't want to sell, cause you look to young, you have to show your ID. Nobody questions this!

Phantasm

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@SummerOf68 @raccoon So you want to live in a world where the government takes care of your kids instead of you, while using invasive regulation that doesn't need to exist. Got it.

Do you know why nobody questions alcohol/tobacco regulation and kids? Because showing your ID to a shopkeeper doesn't tie your indentity to everything you do online. The shopkeeper won't even remember your identity in a few hours.

Also if you think children cannot buy alcohol and tobacco products, and aren't bypassing the laws, you probably in an alternate universe then.
SummerOf68

SummerOf68

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@phnt @raccoon "taking care of kids" is not simular to youth protection.

Neither does the EU app control your identity anywhere in the internet.

The one who sells alcohol or tabaco to underaged riscs to be punished by law then.

Try to discuss with facts, not with emotions and desinformation next time!

Youth protection is a matter of the state since a long time, the members of the EU agreed to outsource parts of their sovereignty to the EU and to make EU law domestic law.

Get over it, it's up to the EU, it's how it works. EU is not just to redirect money from rich EU member states as subsidies to poor EU member states. You got something wrong then!

Phantasm

Phantasm

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@SummerOf68 @raccoon So I hit the nail on the head regarding the world you want to live in. Educating your child on what they should and shouldn't do on the Internet is something that should be left to the governments and their age verification checks apparently. Preventing your child from going on porn sites with something simple as DNS filters and educating them on what porn even is and why they shouldn't watch it is something the government should teach them instead by showing them a "you are not allowed to view this page" error page.

There's no point in continuing this further. iPad parenting.
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