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Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

People are quick to laugh at nerds with a dream of modular homes and stuff, but they are right.
Houses should be more like software.
In all respects where it sucks ass, they are already like software.

Chartin deMartre

@nugger@poa.st remote

@WandererUber I'VE WORKED CONSTRUCTION, WHAT EXACTLY IS MEANT BY MODULAR HOMES?

Chartin deMartre

@nugger@poa.st remote

@WandererUber NAILED JOISTS ARE MADE AT A FACTORY AND SHIPPED IN, THE BUILDING CODE ALREADY MAKES THE BUILDING FAIRLY MODULAR AS IN EVERYTHING IS MADE OF KNOWN STANDARDIZED ASSEMBLIES THAT SLOT TOGETHER

Chartin deMartre

@nugger@poa.st remote

@WandererUber YOU MEAN LIKE THE HOUSE IS SEVERAL MANUFACTURED HOUSE STYLE ENCLOSURES SLID TOGETHER WITH PASSAGEWAYS IN BETWEEN THEM?

THE ONE BIG PROBLEM I SEE IS THE ROOFLINE WILL BE A MCMANSION STYLE LANDSCAPE OF HILLS AND VALLEYS THAT ARE A NIGHTMARE TO CLEAN, BUT MCMANSIONS ALREADY HAVE THAT

Soylent Groyp

@SoylentGroyper@poa.st remote

@nugger @WandererUber shipping containers can be used as homes

Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

@WandererUber@poa.st remote

@SoylentGroyper @nugger has obvious downsides but perhaps someone will start making hoistable modules (steel frame, mount points for winches) in that form factor

radians

@radians@poa.st remote

@WandererUber @SoylentGroyper @nugger This is basically reinventing the doublewide/manufactured home, and the logistics chain for those is already well solved.

Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

@WandererUber@poa.st remote

@radians @SoylentGroyper @nugger I'm not too well-versed in how they are used, but they can't be stacked for example, can they?

radians

@radians@poa.st remote

@WandererUber @SoylentGroyper @nugger i can't think of any that assemble as a 2 story unit and Im not sure HUD code allows for this. You would have a very narrow structure. There would also be a question of what to do with the second floor frame. In normal manufactured home construction the steel floor frame also serves as the transport conveyance.

Chartin deMartre

@nugger@poa.st remote

@radians @WandererUber @SoylentGroyper SUPPOSE A DOUBLE WIDE DOUBLE TALL WITH PILLARS THAT ARE LIKE BASEMENT JACKS FOR SAGGING FOUNDATIONS

Chartin deMartre

@nugger@poa.st remote

@radians @WandererUber @SoylentGroyper THEN AGAIN HOW ARE YOU HAULING THE SECOND LAYER UP ON TOP OF THE FIRST
YOU NEED TO BRING A CRANE
THIS KINDA SUCKS

Wanderer atop the sea of clouds or whatever

@WandererUber@poa.st remote

@nugger @radians @SoylentGroyper oh no, not a crane! We can't use cranes for construction, everyone knows that!

Chartin deMartre

@nugger@poa.st remote

@WandererUber @radians @SoylentGroyper WHAT AM I MADE OF MONEY??

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Chartin deMartre

@nugger@poa.st remote

@WandererUber @radians @SoylentGroyper IF IM BRINGING A CRANE I BETTER BUILD SOMETHING WITH MORE ROI THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME

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wizard 🌲

@wizardmanperson@poa.st remote

@nugger @WandererUber @radians @SoylentGroyper smaller cranes are used a lot in constructions in Germany from what I've seen. And that for 2 to 3 floors houses even.

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Paleface

@Paleface@nicecrew.digital remote

Here in Belgium they don't build a dog house without a crane.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️

@KingOfWhiteAmerica@poa.st remote

@nugger @WandererUber @radians @SoylentGroyper Depends on the family innit