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every single example i've been given of adult asian women that magically look like a kid has been some specifically staged heavily filtered image, then after 4 seconds on google i find a candid image of them where, surprise surprise, they do look like an adult (usually just wearing heavy makeup and with obvious plastic surgery)

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@mushroom_soup @kumicota @Kerosene @redneonglow @bebe @suquili I won't discount that I have some sort of problem noticing small details, people have said this before, but it also suggests maybe some people aren't specifically gooning to child-looking characters. I'm sure many are! my main observation though is I go through Tokyo at least once a month these days and see a lot of really styled up women that tbh look pretty young, enough that I have to kind of re-evaluate where I think the line is. I don't think about it too much because I don't just evaluate every woman I see on a fuckability scale, but there is some kind of process of figuring if someone looks like an adult or not, for a variety of reasons

the discussion that should actually happen is how asia has such a huge pedophilia problem that the only beauty standard for women is to look as young as is physically possible for them with plastic surgery and makeup, but you can't have that discussion because many men considere that cool and based

i think in the west we have more examples of female beauty ideals with relatively low neoteny. not all of them obviously but they exist. sharon stone was in the news recently and i remember when she was considered one of the most beautiful women in this scene. kim kardashan literally defined beauty standards for the past decade. a whole generation of men had their sexual awakening after seeing salma hayek in from dusk till dawn. i'm not saying any neoteny shouldn't have any sort of baring on beauty standards but i think it's indicative of an issue when that is the ONLY beauty standard for women