dont understand why you guys shill for ireland so much theyre just white people you should shill for someplace cool like india or thailand or vietnam
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7Why would we be shilling for other races with historical problems we have nothing to do with? Neutrality is the reasonable position towards distant nations.
Also nice racism lmao "they're just white people that's uncool"
"genocide bad when it's against me, but it's lame to complain about it when it's against whites", right?
The Irish are "our guys" in the sense of common continental roots, it has nothing to do with ideology. Anyone not insane would feel sympathy for a nation related to theirs be it in blood or faith that suffered repeated attempts at being wiped.
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5@georgia @nerthos @rowb1t alternatively id like to join and say that claiming that the irish potato famine a genocide honestly isnt that outlandish. people at the time viewed it as being caused by the government and as being cruel. now it was largely driven by the system of heavy extraction from ireland making a failing potato crop far more devastating, but letting that continue was a real decision people made and understood themselves as making. some used it as an opportunity to force more ‘enlightened’ british ways on the irish. it was explicitly seen a way to destroy an inferior people. the fact that it was mainly driven by apathy doesn’t change that imo. you can disagree ig but i think people underplay the role of apathy in perpetuating massive evils.
i also think youre right and people overhype ireland bc theyre white
The ND movement instills an impressive amount of political education onto its youth and this goes back generations if you have ever talked to families involved.
@georgia @lizzie @nerthos the reason why so many leftists talk about Ireland is because it was the literal model for European colonialism that was later exported across the globe. the entire concept of a white race was influenced by the Crown's efforts to suppress irish culture and language. and people continue to hype up ireland because even now, as a (mostly) independent "first-world" country (though tbh the RoI was an economic shithole until the '90s), Ireland continues to be the only consistently anti-colonial voice in Europe. FFS they're not even in NATO.
The Irish have historically sympathized with Indigenous people's struggle for sovereignty world wide.