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"This Week in Plasma" brings the news that devs are hard at work polishing Plasma 6.7 due to be released on the 16th of June.

Annoying bugs, like a crash when a monitor was quickly switched off and on again, or being unable to recover a window you have dragged off the edge of a screen, are being solved to make sure your experience with your upcoming desktop environment is smooth and pleasant.

https://blogs.kde.org/2026/05/30/this-week-in-plasma-6.7-beta-2-released/

#KDEAt30 #desktop #FreeSoftware #OpenSource

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feld

@feld@friedcheese.us remote

@kde great now just make sure it doesn't require systemd

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Gianmarco Gargiulo

@gianmarcogg03@mastodon.uno remote

@feld @kde it doesn't.

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feld

@feld@friedcheese.us remote

@gianmarcogg03 @kde except it does if you want a real desktop experience with the Plasma Login Manager, the sddm fork.

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Gianmarco Gargiulo

@gianmarcogg03@mastodon.uno remote

@feld @kde that's not Plasma Desktop and you can use a different login manager anyway.

Gianmarco Gargiulo

@gianmarcogg03@mastodon.uno remote

@feld @kde yet they are on most Linux systems, they exist in the real world, unless you think we all live in a simulation.

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feld

@feld@friedcheese.us remote

@gianmarcogg03 @kde "something you can do with software that only has 1% market share" also known as "the reason it has 1% market share"

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Gianmarco Gargiulo

@gianmarcogg03@mastodon.uno remote

@feld @kde so we're only 1% because we separate the desktop from the login manager?

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feld

@feld@friedcheese.us remote

@gianmarcogg03 @kde the inability to build a coherent end to end fully integrated OS experience, yes

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KDE

@kde@floss.social remote

@feld @gianmarcogg03

What do you mean by "real desktop experience"? What would constitute a "fake" one?

By the way, you can get the Plasma desktop experience by typing

startplasma-wayland

startplasma-x11

from the command line.

No login manager of any description required—except your fingers.

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KDE

@kde@floss.social remote

@feld @gianmarcogg03

Here is a presentation you may find interesting:

https://hosted-files.sched.co/osselcna2026/10/What%20Running%20FreeBSD%20on%20a%20Modern%20Laptop%20Taught%20Me.pptx.pdf

It is about the stuff that "just worked" for someone trying to use FreeBSD, an OS with no systemd in sight, as an end user. It is by Deb Goodkin, Executive Director of the FreeBSD Foundation.

Check out slide 9.

feld

@feld@friedcheese.us remote

@witix @gianmarcogg03 @kde Linux-only, useless

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feld

@feld@friedcheese.us remote

@kde @gianmarcogg03 you're missing the point. Let me set the stage.

The Modern Linux Desktop Experience^TM:

You have a corporate Linux laptop. You have no local root access. You have no local accounts. You can't boot into single user mode; you can't boot from a rescue disk due to Secure Boot.

It has an automatic VPN back to corporate HQ. You must login with a directory account (LDAP/AD), and it has been a long weekend/vacation and your local credentials cache has expired.

You go to Starbucks and get a coffee, sit down and open your laptop.

But you can't login.

You need to be on a network, but you can't configure the WiFi from the Login Manager.

This is the fake desktop experience. You don't have a desktop, you have a brick. It is completely useless in a very normal scenario -- the exact scenario the EU wants to tackle so businesses can get off Windows.

The Plasma Login Manager is the beginning of solving this type of problem. But making a hard dependency on systemd is stupid.

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*The* Paul Brown

@Bro666@social.tchncs.de remote

@feld @kde @gianmarcogg03

TL;DR "I have to make up a really convoluted and faulty scenario, while surreptitiously moving the goalposts 50 miles into a totally different county just so I don't have to admit I was wrong."

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feld

@feld@friedcheese.us remote

@Bro666 congratulations on never having a job in a high security environment with properly managed endpoint devices given to employees