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@Shadowbroker2135 @pixel8edanime @graf YMMV

The first few textgen models they had were made for creative writing help and they're absolutely spectacular for that. If you actually bother with lorebooks and entering stuff properly and giving proper responses, the language and variety it shat out was pretty impressive, but you had to give an equal amount of effort, and it wasn't made for the long term (too low context token), basically, you had to tard wrangle it a lot

The new model is much smarter and has a massive context size, however it tends to fall a lot into repetitive AI slop. However, if you use their own interface instead of Sillytavern, you can now add scripts to do stuff for you. One of which can cut down on the slop. Much better for long term roleplaying IMO, still doesn't surpass the old model for creative writing, but much less tard wrangling and having to fill lorebooks and such, which is why it's better for roleplaying. However, it's still a "beta" and still not fully tuned I believe?
@Shadowbroker2135 @graf @pixel8edanime Karya and co (their older model), I've heard people say that it pretty much surpassed every single model for creative writing, as even the smartest model tends to just go into AI slop and repetition and liking a few sentences too much. According to what I heard, most models for creative writings are just selling you chatgpt and other existing models that are just generally not good for it and you can just *tell* which model it is

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