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@eri I put my HomeAssistant NUC on a vlan and every smart device is ZigBee only to HomeAssistant. Of course, the average user is probably not using HomeAssistant or ZigBee, or even a router with vlans.

I think the main thing that is missing here is education and a reason for the average consumer to care about privacy and want to do something about it. The average consumer has Facebook, or at least had a Facebook account in the past and don't see it as a problem. That's the first issue.

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