Mmmmm, yes, amphibious landings and assaults are traditionally known for their very low casualty rates 
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@TrevorGoodchild Well surely the Iranians would have to stop launching missiles and drones if we stood on their beach
I'm going to hazard a guess that this time Omaha Beach won't have boats full of Whites willing to charge to their deaths. Imagine getting those squatamalens and niggers to attempt it. Edit: It was a great military disaster to ever attempt it the first time, a terrible tactical decision only "successful" because of the green troops that were guarding the beach and it was still a slaughter, but I digress.
Confucius say invest in steak and lobster, then in pine boxes.
@TrevorGoodchild Donnie, put this poastie in the first wave for E-Day
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@TrevorGoodchild Kike mages at the White House summoned young Winston Churchill (from the Throne of Villains ofc) as an advisor
@TrevorGoodchild Isnt Iran like one giant mountain range? Unless zog wants to sacrifice a few million White man(they do) its retarded idea.
@TrevorGoodchild We have a public wargame of this when the US was much strogner nad Iran was much weaker, and spoiler alert did not go well for USA then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
Really if Trump wants to go in on the ground he needs to start a draft soon because unless going with a Zelensky special the draftees will need some kind of training. Waiting till post mid terms for a ground game and the world will just be used to no gulf oil and all the US aligned regimes that need that oil revenue might all be gone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
Really if Trump wants to go in on the ground he needs to start a draft soon because unless going with a Zelensky special the draftees will need some kind of training. Waiting till post mid terms for a ground game and the world will just be used to no gulf oil and all the US aligned regimes that need that oil revenue might all be gone.
the mountains that would be the issue are more central to the country. there's a lot of desert like iraq as well as some swampy, marshy tropical-ish areas, esp around the coast
@TrevorGoodchild Serious question - at what point does the Pentagon just start telling Blormph no?
I mean yes, the top brass is all kosher goycattle but surely they’d balk at Gallipoli 2.0, right?
I mean yes, the top brass is all kosher goycattle but surely they’d balk at Gallipoli 2.0, right?
Catgirl Kulak wrote an interesting strategy document, how to invade Iran in the least horrible way possible...
Grab the coastline as fast as possible and then take the edge of the mountains so that the Iranians need to attack through mountains, and transporting things through mountains is hard.
He also pointed out that this is almost certainly NOT what the US is going to do because they're dumb, and they'll be attracted to ideas that cannot possibly work but look really good on paper.
Grab the coastline as fast as possible and then take the edge of the mountains so that the Iranians need to attack through mountains, and transporting things through mountains is hard.
He also pointed out that this is almost certainly NOT what the US is going to do because they're dumb, and they'll be attracted to ideas that cannot possibly work but look really good on paper.
I fail to understand how the military that can't occupy it's own bases thinks it's going to occupy a beachhead in Iran.
It's not strictly impossible... Those bases were for two things:
1. Put down and possible revolt against the (installed) royal family
2. Be a Big Swinging Dick vis-a-vis USSR "look how many bases we have"
They were NOT meant to be used in a serious war - if that makes any sense.
That said, I think the US will goof up an invasion for other reasons.
1. Put down and possible revolt against the (installed) royal family
2. Be a Big Swinging Dick vis-a-vis USSR "look how many bases we have"
They were NOT meant to be used in a serious war - if that makes any sense.
That said, I think the US will goof up an invasion for other reasons.
Maybe not impossible, but to me it looks like a logistical nightmare with no strategic upside.
They'd be under constant siege with an extremely tenuous supply line.
>US will goof up an invasion for other reasons.
Yeah, I'm guessing the "Saving Private Hernandez" script is in the works.
> with no strategic upside
The problem is they're up against the wall regarding the petrodollar. As long as Iran controls its coasts, it can control the strait, and as long as the strait is closed, the GCC is closed, and without the Saudi money, the whole bullshit tech bubble is over - and at this point, that's basically The Financial System.
The problem is they're up against the wall regarding the petrodollar. As long as Iran controls its coasts, it can control the strait, and as long as the strait is closed, the GCC is closed, and without the Saudi money, the whole bullshit tech bubble is over - and at this point, that's basically The Financial System.
@cjd @GoodComradeLolaDaviet
Yes.
If the Amerifats can outlast the Persians then the AI bubble is staying for the foreseeable future.
Yes.
If the Amerifats can outlast the Persians then the AI bubble is staying for the foreseeable future.
Yeahhhh, but lets be serious here.
Somewhere in the Pentagon, someone is prompting ChatGPT to write the battle plan because he's in a hurry to get it submitted so he can make it to his Grindr date.
> make it like D-Day and in the end we have to win
The US is not on a path to "winning"
Somewhere in the Pentagon, someone is prompting ChatGPT to write the battle plan because he's in a hurry to get it submitted so he can make it to his Grindr date.
> make it like D-Day and in the end we have to win
The US is not on a path to "winning"
@cjd @GoodComradeLolaDaviet
>Pentagon
>Grindr date
kek
>not on a path to "winning"
True, but I highly doubt that's the goal. Everything just has to suck long enough until the word "Petro-Yuan" is erased from memory. The reward is boomer pensions/401k's are safe. The cost is American hegemony dying a little sooner.
TL;DR, the Americans are doing a heckin brinkmanship (many such cases)
>Pentagon
>Grindr date
kek
>not on a path to "winning"
True, but I highly doubt that's the goal. Everything just has to suck long enough until the word "Petro-Yuan" is erased from memory. The reward is boomer pensions/401k's are safe. The cost is American hegemony dying a little sooner.
TL;DR, the Americans are doing a heckin brinkmanship (many such cases)
> The reward is boomer pensions/401k's are safe
But they are not... Even as we speak, the strait is closed, KSA has no income, so the market is getting no cash infusions. They're currently able to keep it covered with Enron Accounting, but this is not going to hold out forever, they NEEEEEEEEEEEEEED that strait re-opened or else it's 2008 all over again.
But they are not... Even as we speak, the strait is closed, KSA has no income, so the market is getting no cash infusions. They're currently able to keep it covered with Enron Accounting, but this is not going to hold out forever, they NEEEEEEEEEEEEEED that strait re-opened or else it's 2008 all over again.
@cjd @GoodComradeLolaDaviet
That's the beauty of brinkmanship. Screw over everyone else and the elites just have to survive (they will).
I'm extremely curious about what's going on in China and also what's going on with US treasuries rn.
Here's the play they'll make:
Trump is going to make a mess and in 2028 Gavin Newsom comes in on a white horse to save everyone's bacon with regime sanctioned QE.
Sell precious metals now bc that bull run will not last.
That's the beauty of brinkmanship. Screw over everyone else and the elites just have to survive (they will).
I'm extremely curious about what's going on in China and also what's going on with US treasuries rn.
Here's the play they'll make:
Trump is going to make a mess and in 2028 Gavin Newsom comes in on a white horse to save everyone's bacon with regime sanctioned QE.
Sell precious metals now bc that bull run will not last.
When the dollar loses hegemony, we get hyper inflation in the states. Those 401k's won't be worth a loaf of bread here.
This has become existential for all major players involved.
The theory of victory for Iran is to survive long enough for the empire to break it's own back.
The theory of victory for the empire is, I have no fucking clue at this point.
Everyone can see that it's naked.
Israel will probably go nuclear eventually, but to what end?
AFAICT this is either 17-D Chess, or Profound Mental Retardation.
If it's Profound Mental Retardation, I can't say what happens next because it's just gonna be chaos.
If it's 17-D Chess, what I think is going on is the following:
1. Trump doesn't like The Establishment (swamp)
2. So he shutdown Epstein and allowed the files to go public - that wasn't really an accident
3. He's pretending to defend Epstein's people because he doesn't want to draw heat on himself... Let the poison work.
4. Attacking Iran in such a way as to create a conflict no one could back out of was intended to kneecap the financial system and take down The Establishment with it.
There's also a bunch of End-Of-The-World religious stuff, but I'm not religious so for me, it classes as Profound Mental Retardation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If it's Profound Mental Retardation, I can't say what happens next because it's just gonna be chaos.
If it's 17-D Chess, what I think is going on is the following:
1. Trump doesn't like The Establishment (swamp)
2. So he shutdown Epstein and allowed the files to go public - that wasn't really an accident
3. He's pretending to defend Epstein's people because he doesn't want to draw heat on himself... Let the poison work.
4. Attacking Iran in such a way as to create a conflict no one could back out of was intended to kneecap the financial system and take down The Establishment with it.
There's also a bunch of End-Of-The-World religious stuff, but I'm not religious so for me, it classes as Profound Mental Retardation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> The theory of victory for Iran is to survive long enough for the empire to break it's own back.
It doesn't even have to "survive" in the sense of continuing to have a single cohesive government that controls the territory.
Even if there are 20 or 30 regional commanders all loosely collaborating with one another around "what the Ayatollah would have wanted", that strait isn't gonna open any time soon. In fact it's even worse, because NOBODY has enough power/respect to be able to call a ceasefire. If you say "hey why don't we stop fighting" the next guy is gonna say "they give you 7k to say that?", and you look like a jackass.
> This has become existential for all major players involved.
Yes.
> Israel will probably go nuclear eventually, but to what end?
Yes. It will just legitimize use of nuclear weapons - which are pretty useless against a giant mountain hellscape, but would be VERY effective against Israel...
It doesn't even have to "survive" in the sense of continuing to have a single cohesive government that controls the territory.
Even if there are 20 or 30 regional commanders all loosely collaborating with one another around "what the Ayatollah would have wanted", that strait isn't gonna open any time soon. In fact it's even worse, because NOBODY has enough power/respect to be able to call a ceasefire. If you say "hey why don't we stop fighting" the next guy is gonna say "they give you 7k to say that?", and you look like a jackass.
> This has become existential for all major players involved.
Yes.
> Israel will probably go nuclear eventually, but to what end?
Yes. It will just legitimize use of nuclear weapons - which are pretty useless against a giant mountain hellscape, but would be VERY effective against Israel...
@cjd @GoodComradeLolaDaviet
Who knows. My operative assumption is that we're all, other world powers included, stuck with the American financial system and it's in full on meltdown mode.
"Give me a petro-dollar long enough, and I will move the heavens"
-Henry Kissinger (probably)
Who knows. My operative assumption is that we're all, other world powers included, stuck with the American financial system and it's in full on meltdown mode.
"Give me a petro-dollar long enough, and I will move the heavens"
-Henry Kissinger (probably)