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The Bazzite drama is so fucking funny to me actually.

This is exactly what I would expect would happen to a proprietary "gamer" distro that uses Reddit/Discord as its primary way of communication.

These guys are all incredibly incompetent and don't know shit about computers or programming.

All they know is how to package a bunch of a proprietary shit together "for convenience".

Other distros could do this too but they don't because it sucks.

@SuperDicq what distro there is that can replace bazzite (i.e. with boot-to-steam and other similar niceties)

@hj@shigusegubu.club

boot-to-steam and other similar niceties

Niceties? Why would I want my computer to boot into a proprietary DRM platform? If I wanted that I would've just bought a gaming console.

@SuperDicq you don't want but i do

@hj@shigusegubu.club There is no point in having a free operating system if all you're going to do is launch Steam and play proprietary games. Just buy a Nintendo Switch instead.

@SuperDicq point is having ability to modify everything and be able to play anything.

@hj@shigusegubu.club But you can't modify anything on these types of distros.

@SuperDicq yes you can

@hj@shigusegubu.club All the proprietary software they have installed with you can't.

@SuperDicq for steam there is decky, everything else you can modify as in normal linux distro.

@hj@shigusegubu.club For a gaming OS the proposition of "everything except the things that the user actually meaningfully interacts with" is essentially nothing.

@SuperDicq what?

@hj@shigusegubu.club You interact mostly with the steam client and its games on a gaming OS like this. You can't modify those.

@SuperDicq you can modify steam and its UI with decky. You can install mods on games.

@hj@shigusegubu.club That's a very limited form of modification. It's like saying Windows is free software because it allows me to set a wallpaper. You need it's source code to make real modifications.

@SuperDicq @hj adobe photoshop is more freedom respecting than gimp because it’s more usable for creating art.

Actual opinion by a talker at a previous fosdem

@sun @SuperDicq krita is more free tho

@hj @SuperDicq @sun Krita is less free as the license is GPLv3-only, while GIMP is GPLv3-or-later.

But it turns out that a drawing program is more suitable for drawing that an image manipulation program.

@Suiseiseki @hj @SuperDicq @sun >GPLv3-only
>GPLv3-or-later
neither of them is as free as GPLv3+NIGGER

@hakui @SuperDicq @hj @sun All other non-permissive additional terms are considered "further restrictions" within the meaning of section 10. If the Program as you received it, or any part of it, contains a notice stating that it is governed by this License along with a term that is a further restriction, you may remove that term.

@Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @hj @sun sounds like you don't have the freedom to say NIGGER in your license file

@hakui @SuperDicq @hj @sun Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.

@Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @hj @sun @hakui that only applies to the license as your recieve it, included with software. you can absolutely license a new work you created under the gplv3-or-later+nigger. that's not a violation of freedom.

@HatkeshiatorTND @SuperDicq @hj @sun @hakui You do not have copyright permission to modify the GPLv3 if you include the GNU preamble or mention GNU (otherwise people could modify the GPLv3 into a proprietary license and call it "GPLv3", or insert some retardation into it).

@Suiseiseki @HatkeshiatorTND @SuperDicq @hj @sun but it's not called "GPLv3", it's "GPLv3+NIGGER"

@hakui @HatkeshiatorTND @Suiseiseki @SuperDicq @hj @sun the biggest threat to Linux is the people who use it

@Wiz@tsundere.love @hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info @HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @hj@shigusegubu.club @sun@shitposter.world The biggest thread is Hurd taking over and Linus Torvalds will be in shambles. The year of the full GNU operating system without Linux is soon going to be upon us!

@SuperDicq @hj @hakui @Suiseiseki @sun @Wiz it already is. you can use xorg on it and run it on amd64 architectures. 75% of debian packages work on debian hurd. i assume guix hurd is only doing better given it doesn't aim to centrally plan all packaging!

@HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social @hj@shigusegubu.club @hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @sun@shitposter.world @Wiz@tsundere.love VESA-mode isn't very ideal for desktop use but you can already run GNU/Hurd on a server.

I'm personally a lot more hyped about the Guix GNU/Hurd distro, since it also uses GNU Shepherd instead of systemd.

@HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social @hj@shigusegubu.club @hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @sun@shitposter.world @Wiz@tsundere.love Guix GNU/Hurd is like the first real GNU operating system.

Userland: GNU
Init: GNU
Kernel: GNU
Bootloader: GNU
Package management: GNU

@SuperDicq @hj @hakui @sun @Wiz @HatkeshiatorTND Guix GNU/GNU Linux-libre is a real GNU OS as well.

Userland: GNU
Init: GNU
Kernel: GNU Linux-libre
Bootloader: GNU
Package management: GNU

@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @hj@shigusegubu.club @hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info @sun@shitposter.world @Wiz@tsundere.love @HatkeshiatorTND@annihilation.social Yeah but dumb people can still be like "So it is Linux?????", not possible with GNU/Hurd

@hj@shigusegubu.club @hakui @Suiseiseki @sun @Wiz@tsundere.love @SuperDicq it is so dumb only the kernel is a GNU fork of Linux. How does that make it not GNU.