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Amazing. Nice little "super power" we have over here. A trillion dollars just can't even buy it success while a trillion dollars could have done wonders for education, healthcare, pensions, and many other things. Nice little clown show we are operating over here.

@cjd Lets pretend that we for sure know education is more corrupt for a second. At least that corruption is mostly staying at a local and state level instead of international contracts with foreign nations such as Israel that get big bonuses from the military expenditures. The military can make a bunch of weapons, not use most of it for a decade, and then "donate" it to places like Ukraine or fuel black budgets. The current budget is something like 1.15 trillion for the military too.
@Sovereign @cjd You can't make high end weapons without a good base iq population, then a good education system from early on. Russia and china succeed where western technology fails because its scientists and engineers are mostly white(Russia) and some asians and chink for china and then grew up and went through an educational system that is demonstrably better than the western one. You can't educate shitskins but even high iq people without proper education from childhood will not be able to build space weapons and hypersonics. So the corruption of western education is very serious. And the bulk of it is from the left.
@Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @cjd Yeah I definitely wouldn't disagree with that. But I hope the point I'm making is also understood. Education is a very long wavelength type of thing that takes a long time to produce results, both negative or positive. Military is more in your face with selling something that is price gouged to the government by 100x. I'd argue its similar to healthcare more than education. Education I don't think is selling a pencil for $100 but hospitals will charge insurance $50 for a single Advil.
The dumbing down of the average American is intentional. The creation of compulsory state education was done specifically to make domesticated house pets out of free-range men. The government education system is not and never was meant to turn ignorant people into educated people. That's not why it was created and any gains it ever made in that effort were mostly unintentional.

So if you pumped a bunch of money into it, it would continue to not do the thing it isn't supposed to do, but with more grift and fraud.
@Sovereign @white_male @weknowwhygary @cjd @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta In the public school system the "best" teachers aren't necessarily very good, either.

From my experience tutoring I'd get students in IB or AP struggling because the teachers teaching the material were just average at best themselves.

The schools start the programs because of extra funding and prestige. And these schools do have the advanced to gifted students to take the programs and benefit from them.

But you're still stuck with the teachers you have.

A lot of good teachers leave teaching because of the other ones.
The entire structure of modern schooling is designed to produce nothing of value. That any learning happens at all is an accident.

The Amish have had almost no changes to their schooling in 200 years, they only go until 8th grade, and they STILL manage to beat median salary.

If I was a teacher and I couldn't get outcomes for my kids better than the Amish, I'd suck a shotgun.

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