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@anemone what's your take on it? I very much agree with the traditional perspective, except that I think only humans can understand chinese because we have souls which is different from his milquetoast opinion that a sufficiently advanced computer could understand chinese.
@georgia@netzsphaere.xyz i dont think it actually addresses the question. the argument that the person running the algorithm or w/e doesn't understand is irrelevant since you could make the same argument that the individual cells making up the person dont understand chinese therefore the person doesn't understand chinese which is clearly a dumb position to take.

fwiw I currently lean on the side of consciousness not being something a computer can produce but i think computers can have souls since all things in the universe can have souls

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