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@cjd @DC5FAN @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn >nobody fights harder than somebody being invaded

Americans in the mountains would love to shoot Iranians stepping foot there too. The biggest problem is if our own anti-White government assists them after retaking power and putting the mass invasion into overdrive after demoralizing and humiliating White Americans.

Jews and the Gates of Toledo. Same players. Same game.
> Americans in the mountains would love to shoot Iranians stepping foot there too.

I've found that a very informative thought experiment is to flip everything in that way. Imagine being invaded and how people would react, and you can expect that kind of reaction from the Iranians.

Also common Iranians not liking the Iranian government - though perhaps not quite to the extent that the American government is hated...
@cjd @Jewpacabra @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @DC5FAN @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn

Is the invasion an overwhelming force or is it 6000 guys who don't really want to be here? If its an overwhelming force the insurgency America would muster would be huge. Stop the flow of McDonald's and capeshit television and the USA would go into Freedom mode. 6000 guys, if the army didn't mop that up in about a week then the civilians would.

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Both. Invasions always start off with 6000 guys, the government doesn't kill them, they *capture* them, because what they really want is for the invading army to be compelled to Save Private Ramirez by doing a large scale invasion which they then cannot back out of...

Iran wants to sink the US into Iran, Israel wants Iran dead and the US out of the middle east so they can landgrab Greater Israel and take control of the Persian Gulf, the US is not in control of it's own decision making so what it wants is irrelevant.
> nowhere to stage them that is outside of irans missile/drone strike range

What if Iran *wants* them to invade? If America is unable to invade then they might sit around bombing Iran indefinitely because no one cares. But if America invades and Iran is able to kill thousands of Americans and force the US government to begin the draft, this is much more likely to lead to a US imperial collapse.

If that happens, and if Iran is then able to defeat Israel, then the middle east is theirs...
There might be some generals who are fired because they refuse to plan a ground invasion of Iran, but I think most likely the administration will force the issue for three reasons:

1. With the strait closed off, the petrodollar is fucked, so the US wall street financial shit is also fucked, stock market / tech bubble is fucked, etc.

2. The people in power are not interested in continuing the US as an empire, and their intention is to transfer the imperial seat to Israel in the same way they transferred it from England to the US 100ish years ago. So they don't care if the US loses, they just need Iran vanquished so that Israel can rule over the region.

3. The people in power are a bunch of more-or-less crazy people who got into power because they all believe these fairy tales about the end of the world. Their belief in these stories gave them the ability to seize power because the stories coordinated them to act as a group. But they're still crazy, and if their stories lead them off a cliff they will still jump.
> jews

Some jews, some christians (zionists), some freemasons. Getting people to blame everything on The Jews is part of the plan - because Israel is nothing without people to move there. No one wants to move to the fucking shit hole desert, so they need pogroms to force jews to live there.

The Powers That Be are quietly normalizing antisemitism, even whilst swearing up and down that it is the most evil thing on the planet.
@cjd @MisterRogersSnapped @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @madcuzbad @DC5FAN @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @brimshae @thefinn yep. I agree. that’s why I’m of the opinion that Fuentes is a fed even though he talks about jews. I was talking with a relative and he said he saw a video of a rabbi speaking about Fuentes saying that he’s sent by their god to fulfill the Aliyah.

Christian zionists are judaizers and the Freemasons have long had a history of ties to jews and many jews in their ranks too. But ultimately yeah it’s a bunch of crazies following some jewish prophecy probably because they’re guaranteeing them all the money and the power they want.

The elites sold the souls of our nations long ago.
Also Israel doing a very public genocide and letting the whole world see it, or Bibi (e-bibi?) saying evil triumphs over good. But perhaps the biggest tell is the fact that the ADL consistently does nothing but stir up all the antisemitism they possibly can, while claiming that they have "dozens of PhDs" searching for ways to stop it.

I think what they're looking for here is that America and Europe will deport all the Jews to the middle east, but then just hand them control of 20% of the world's oil, plus the most important shipping route on the planet.
I wouldn't count them out. The same crazies who poured trillions of dollars into such things as particle accelerators the size of micro-nations, are the ones who are fixated on the idea of Israel...

We normal people can't even get them to stop dumping the 3rd world on us, poisoning us, and weaponizing our own governments against us.

So I could easily imagine they would be able to - be sheer force of will and infinite Other People's Money - make Israel a success.
I don't think they'll allow changing it like that, because the whole religious significance of Jerusalem. When you look at the other things they do, it's pretty clear that something being dumb or impossible is really not an impediment to them. Even if it's physically impossible, they still move heaven and earth to try, just look at the trillions of dollars they've flushed down the LLM toilet...

More likely they're going to steal everything they can from everyone on the planet to use it to fight an impossible war to conquer every inch of Iran and genocide everyone they find there.

Personally I wish we could designate a patch of land to all of the crazies in the world and they can all just go there and fight each other for the rest of time and leave the rest of us alone.
Oh yeah, how about Quantum Computers... How many trillions have they spent so far trying to factor primes?

It just doesn't seem like they give a fuck about whether something is possible or not, they do it because they want to and they believe that they can change the fabric of reality by sheer force of will.

I know... And so is AI, and so are particle accelerators, and so is Israel... But it's like the people throwing money at these things have the ability to just put their hand in your and my pocket and manifest infinite money, so they literally don't care if any of these things make any sense. 😭

@Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @cjd @MisterRogersSnapped @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @madcuzbad @DC5FAN @Jewpacabra @TrevorGoodchild @brimshae @thefinn The hype is. I'm betting on 20 years to prove the technology. It works in a fundamentally different way and there is real potential in being able to exploit it. Time will tell but I understand it at a fairly serious level and it's not nothing. But I'm older and could well be dead before it pans out, if it does.
@cjd @MisterRogersSnapped @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @DC5FAN @Jewpacabra @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn Maybe. But America will definitely burn down irans natgas export infrastructure. That ll take 5-7 years to rebuild. Disaster for iran. Also. Why let America invade and not slaughter them at their pre-invasion staging grounds by the tens of thousands? America is defeated before any invasion occurs. Hell, if iran disrupts air and ship traffic aka exfill, even slightly, the massacre could be 100k+.
Iran doesn't care about natgas at this point, the goal is to collapse America, kill Israel, and win the middle east for themselves.

Now who does care is China, and they're going to lean on Iran not to damage that stuff. But Japan and Korea need natgas too and they're gonna lean on the US not to damage it either. This is why the Israeli strike on the natgas infra was like one of 3 times Trump ever rebuked them. That stuff is sensitive.

You're right, there are different ways Iran can go about this, but their win condition is basically when the US starts conscription, so what they're not going to do is hold the US off at a distance...

Right, so Iran needs this to happen at an accelerated pace because the longer it takes, the more they're bombed back to the stone age, which is gonna be a problem for them if the US pulls out of the region and they have to fight Israel for regional dominance.