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I think the Iranians will allow the Americans to do a ground invasion because it gives them an excuse to use their infantry and they can impose a lot more pain that way.
Right, but you're saying the US will not want to, which is still aligned with my point. Iran would love to shoot Americans in the mountains...
Americans in the mountains would love to shoot Iranians stepping foot there too. The biggest problem is if our own anti-White government assists them after retaking power and putting the mass invasion into overdrive after demoralizing and humiliating White Americans.
Jews and the Gates of Toledo. Same players. Same game.
I've found that a very informative thought experiment is to flip everything in that way. Imagine being invaded and how people would react, and you can expect that kind of reaction from the Iranians.
Also common Iranians not liking the Iranian government - though perhaps not quite to the extent that the American government is hated...
Is the invasion an overwhelming force or is it 6000 guys who don't really want to be here? If its an overwhelming force the insurgency America would muster would be huge. Stop the flow of McDonald's and capeshit television and the USA would go into Freedom mode. 6000 guys, if the army didn't mop that up in about a week then the civilians would.
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38Iran wants to sink the US into Iran, Israel wants Iran dead and the US out of the middle east so they can landgrab Greater Israel and take control of the Persian Gulf, the US is not in control of it's own decision making so what it wants is irrelevant.
What if Iran *wants* them to invade? If America is unable to invade then they might sit around bombing Iran indefinitely because no one cares. But if America invades and Iran is able to kill thousands of Americans and force the US government to begin the draft, this is much more likely to lead to a US imperial collapse.
If that happens, and if Iran is then able to defeat Israel, then the middle east is theirs...
A draft would end the country. No one would show up and if they tried to enforce it the streets would run red.
So if you're Iran, and you see the US about to attempt a ground invasion, you're rolling them a red fucking carpet.
it'd be like afganistan but bigger, the central part of the country is relatively flat tbh, but getting past hte mountains is something that a lot of armies have failed to do in history.
to put it simply, the mongols almost failed to break through the passes into iran and conquer persia.
And you know the anti-tank and manpads are going to be everywhere. I honestly think this is their big play.
Remember when Russia tried to rush Ukraine at the start of the war and lost an entire tank batallion?
1. With the strait closed off, the petrodollar is fucked, so the US wall street financial shit is also fucked, stock market / tech bubble is fucked, etc.
2. The people in power are not interested in continuing the US as an empire, and their intention is to transfer the imperial seat to Israel in the same way they transferred it from England to the US 100ish years ago. So they don't care if the US loses, they just need Iran vanquished so that Israel can rule over the region.
3. The people in power are a bunch of more-or-less crazy people who got into power because they all believe these fairy tales about the end of the world. Their belief in these stories gave them the ability to seize power because the stories coordinated them to act as a group. But they're still crazy, and if their stories lead them off a cliff they will still jump.
@cjd @Jewpacabra @MisterRogersSnapped @Oven_Operators_LU_88 @Paleface @madcuzbad @DC5FAN @Kalogerosstilitis2RevengeoftheJunta @TrevorGoodchild @thefinn Generals are, by and large, politicians first and military personnel distant second. Even colonels are start to straddle the line quite a bit depending one where they are.
Some jews, some christians (zionists), some freemasons. Getting people to blame everything on The Jews is part of the plan - because Israel is nothing without people to move there. No one wants to move to the fucking shit hole desert, so they need pogroms to force jews to live there.
The Powers That Be are quietly normalizing antisemitism, even whilst swearing up and down that it is the most evil thing on the planet.
Christian zionists are judaizers and the Freemasons have long had a history of ties to jews and many jews in their ranks too. But ultimately yeah it’s a bunch of crazies following some jewish prophecy probably because they’re guaranteeing them all the money and the power they want.
The elites sold the souls of our nations long ago.
I think what they're looking for here is that America and Europe will deport all the Jews to the middle east, but then just hand them control of 20% of the world's oil, plus the most important shipping route on the planet.
We normal people can't even get them to stop dumping the 3rd world on us, poisoning us, and weaponizing our own governments against us.
So I could easily imagine they would be able to - be sheer force of will and infinite Other People's Money - make Israel a success.
More likely they're going to steal everything they can from everyone on the planet to use it to fight an impossible war to conquer every inch of Iran and genocide everyone they find there.
Personally I wish we could designate a patch of land to all of the crazies in the world and they can all just go there and fight each other for the rest of time and leave the rest of us alone.
It just doesn't seem like they give a fuck about whether something is possible or not, they do it because they want to and they believe that they can change the fabric of reality by sheer force of will.
I know... And so is AI, and so are particle accelerators, and so is Israel... But it's like the people throwing money at these things have the ability to just put their hand in your and my pocket and manifest infinite money, so they literally don't care if any of these things make any sense. 😭
tanks especially our tanks, DRINK FUEL the m1 drinks about a gallon of jet fuel per mile.
Now who does care is China, and they're going to lean on Iran not to damage that stuff. But Japan and Korea need natgas too and they're gonna lean on the US not to damage it either. This is why the Israeli strike on the natgas infra was like one of 3 times Trump ever rebuked them. That stuff is sensitive.
You're right, there are different ways Iran can go about this, but their win condition is basically when the US starts conscription, so what they're not going to do is hold the US off at a distance...
Right, so Iran needs this to happen at an accelerated pace because the longer it takes, the more they're bombed back to the stone age, which is gonna be a problem for them if the US pulls out of the region and they have to fight Israel for regional dominance.