Rich men 🤝 dying from treatable cancer because they refuse conventional medicine in favor of pseudoscientific bunk
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@mushroom_soup He was vaccine truster before. Also cancer affects your brain, in my experience a lot of people prefer to give up, especially old ones.
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@Marakus So basically what you're saying is taking MAGA health advice gives you the cognitive equivalent of having a brain riddled with cancer
@Marakus Anti medicalism on the right has gotten out of hand, just yesterday I saw someone on Twitter say that eating beef tallow was an appropriate substitute for taking literal antibiotics
@Marakus His reasoning behind antibiotics being 'bad' was because he 'always felt bad after taking them' YEAH BECAUSE YOU TAKE THEM WHEN YOUR BODY IS FIGHTING OFF AN INFECTION, THAT GENERALLY IS NOT A PROCESS THAT FEELS GOOD
@Marakus Another person was like "well what did people do before antibiotics then huh?" PEOPLE DIED. PEOPLE DIED ALL THE TIME FROM INFECTIONS, WE HAD WHOLE PLAGUES OVER IT. SOMEONE WOULD GET A CUT ON THEIR FOOT AND THEN A WEEK LATER DIE FROM SEPSIS THIS WAS A COMMON THING
@Marakus Another person in that thread helpfully pointed out that 'anti' means against and 'biotic' means life SO OMG GUYS THAT'S HOW YOU CAN TELL IT'S BAD FOR YOU I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'VE LET DOCTORS POISON US LIKE THIS
yeah biotic this
*unzips dick*
*unzips dick*
@mushroom_soup @Marakus stupid foid, J*wish doctors are killing us while laughing in our faces
@Marakus Also if you feel confident that the average person could never be so stupid so we shouldn't worry about it remember that we're currently in the middle of a 'pasteurization is bad actually' revolution among midwit rightoids
@mushroom_soup @Marakus i don't care much about the health aspects, i am a disgusting creature who survives my diet with a smoking addiction, but i think rawdogging milk is cool
@mushroom_soup @Marakus I have had people on this website tell me in earnest that pasteurization was pushed by Jews to make milk go bad.
CatSoc 
@monsterislandcolonizer @mushroom_soup @Marakus It probably stems from that one Rothschild giving a speech advocating for mandatory pasteurisation in Britain, around the 1940's.
@monsterislandcolonizer @mushroom_soup @Marakus Can you pasteurize breast milk? Asking for a friend.
@Will2Power @Marakus @monsterislandcolonizer @mushroom_soup you can pasteurize anything, even a cow.
@Will2Power @monsterislandcolonizer @mushroom_soup @Marakus drink it straight from the source
@mushroom_soup @Marakus Pasteurisation was maybe appropriate during the early industrial era, as a broad response to an enormous amount of abuse and misuse, terrible hygiene, and H&S standards.
Industrial and agricultural standards are such that these abuses are illegal and punished much more often today. It's not really a big deal now, nor was it prior to the industrial era. I don't think pasteurisation is necessary or desirable, as long as those standards are maintained, and it certainly shouldn't be illegal to sell normal milk (as it is in my country for example).
Industrial and agricultural standards are such that these abuses are illegal and punished much more often today. It's not really a big deal now, nor was it prior to the industrial era. I don't think pasteurisation is necessary or desirable, as long as those standards are maintained, and it certainly shouldn't be illegal to sell normal milk (as it is in my country for example).
@CatLord @Marakus I one hundred thousand percent don't trust large corporations not to risk my life to dysentery if it means Line Go Up nor do I trust government organizations like the FDA (which are currently being undermined by the trump administration) to adequately enforce standards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Austrian_diethylene...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Austrian_diethylene...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
@mushroom_soup @Marakus My point in the previous post, was that it was scandals like this (industrial abuse), that brought about pasteurisation in the first place, even though it doesn't do anything for non-bacterial contamination.
The infant formula one you linked is one that will be familiar to any Australian, because Chinese diaspora in Australia started mass buying formula and shipping it to their relatives and other buyers in China.
Returning to my main argument, any time anyone buys a product from the store, they're relying on health and safety standards. It applies to cookies and weird processed foods as much as meat or milk. Pasteurisation only eliminates the one vector of contamination. People still suffer bacterial food poisoning and there are food recalls from processed and non-processed goods in the store.
The infant formula one you linked is one that will be familiar to any Australian, because Chinese diaspora in Australia started mass buying formula and shipping it to their relatives and other buyers in China.
Returning to my main argument, any time anyone buys a product from the store, they're relying on health and safety standards. It applies to cookies and weird processed foods as much as meat or milk. Pasteurisation only eliminates the one vector of contamination. People still suffer bacterial food poisoning and there are food recalls from processed and non-processed goods in the store.
@mushroom_soup @CatLord @Marakus >I one hundred thousand percent don't trust large corporations
Indeed, like when was the last time even a medium sized domestic company was held accountable for f@cking anything? The 80s?
Indeed, like when was the last time even a medium sized domestic company was held accountable for f@cking anything? The 80s?
@mushroom_soup Prescribing antibiotics, at random created a lot of antibiotic resistant bacteria stamps. Some doomsday predictors say that soon antibiotics will stop working altogether, but I very much doubt it.
And its not great to destroy your stomach bacteria twice a year. Better than dying from a papercut, but still.
And its not great to destroy your stomach bacteria twice a year. Better than dying from a papercut, but still.
@mushroom_soup @Marakus Antibiotics are very very bad for you and this is being increasingly documented by modern research on the gut. I'm not saying you should avoid taking them if you're going to die of an infection, but they are fucken bad.
@CatLord @mushroom_soup They are better than death by infection, but they are prescribed for fucking everything. "We dont know what it is, so take antibiotics pack, and come back in a week" is a very common method. "But what if opportunistic bacteria..." but what if it fucking isnt.
@mushroom_soup A lot of people simply cant afford medicine, and it spawns a lot of "alternative medicine" scams. It happened in late ussr/post ussr. A lot of fucking wizards and miracle doctors selling snake oil, cure by fucking magical mail, energized via tv water. When proper medicine loses trustworthiness status, and becomes unaffordable, scammers become unreasonably popular.
Its fucking miserable to explain to adults that magic is not real.
Its fucking miserable to explain to adults that magic is not real.
@Marakus @mushroom_soup That's why you go to arxiv and read clinical trials for active ingredients. It's a hurdle to be overcome, but can be done.
@mushroom_soup Its either medical advice from "people" who wanted to experiment on you, or internet strangers calling you a vaxtard nigger retard. Most midwits cant deal with it.
@Marakus At some point you have to accept that you, a random Internet man, do not know more about cancer than actual oncologists
@mushroom_soup @Marakus Depends.
I've met a lot of retards in the medical field.
Are internet schizos universally smarter than doctors? No.
Would I believe it if Scott Adam decided to do alt medicine because who we was seeing sounded like an unlistening robot with dollar signs in his eyes? Definitely.
I've met a lot of retards in the medical field.
Are internet schizos universally smarter than doctors? No.
Would I believe it if Scott Adam decided to do alt medicine because who we was seeing sounded like an unlistening robot with dollar signs in his eyes? Definitely.
@mushroom_soup Well, all of my relatives who took the vax died from cancer, except 2, which sadly is going to be only one soon enough, unless some miracle happens. And only one of my relatives almost died from covid. Trusting anyone is just not an option anymore. Trust aint going to cure cancer. And people who say that he totally had curable version are internet strangers as well, for all we know he had incurable completely fucked cancer which was killing him for decades, despite everything. Saying "he just didnt take the cure for cancer because he was stupid" is same sensationalism as "ant parasite drugs cure all forms of cancer".
@Marakus The vast majority of people in first world countries have vaccines so saying that you know two people who took it who also died of cancer is not enough to prove causation to any degree. I'm begging people to understand that personal anecdotes are not a rebuttal to actual data
@mushroom_soup Six million vaxtards died.
Remember the six gorillion
@mushroom_soup @Marakus What data? The reports that they desperately tried to cover up?
Who put this person here?
Who put this person here?
@Marakus @mushroom_soup That's horrible man I'm sorry
wait I thought he pursued and eventually received an experimental pharma treatment? is that wrong? or just also true?