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@fisk @suqdiq The alienation of people you find distasteful is why this shit festers. I never condemn someone who interacts with me until it is warranted to do so. And it serves a dual purpose of *being fun* to beat someone over the head with ideology they've never seen before until they capitulate, and justifying to myself in a sort of rubber duck fashion why aggressive juxtaposition doesn't breach my principles.

Anyway they just threw the table over like a child so whatever your opinion, I won.

@7666 @suqdiq @fisk You are a propaganized (probably white) first world liberal who thinks they are a leftist, so I'm not sure why you are insulted by the truth. For some reason you don't believe in class warfare and instead are still convinced that the American electoral politics will bring liberation, when the American left has obviously been controlled opposition since America's conception. You can't win fascists with hearts and minds when they are trying to win over you with guns and bombs. But you wouldn't understand that, because as a first worlder, your class interest is aligned with fascism and you haven't yet freed your mind to realize this.

@swagpuppy420 @suqdiq @fisk Ooh, theory, it's better than what the child was doing.

I am not a leftist. I may be socially liberal but these days I am pushing hard towards libertarian (minus the pedophilia naturally) because I believe the tyranny of the majority (aka idiots) will always corrupt the Democratic process because of the propagandizing you rightly identified and would prefer to be governed by as little interaction as possible with a corrupt-by-default institution.

Using populist rhetoric to illustrate that in my point of view is entirely justified when used in that fashion. I am pretty sure I called someone on NCD the N word just a few days ago actually under the same principles if you really want to know the strength of my beliefs here, and a lot of this position was informed by what is happening in the US.

I think class warfare is the most accurate term but an audience of populists will never accept traditional Marxist ideology without the same kneejerk reaction that racism has in the opposite direction. And yes! You can't win fascists with hearts, but you can exploit their weaknesses. Again, it was a deliberate no win scenario. Renounce racism or renounce your rights.

@swagpuppy420 @suqdiq @fisk Okay, sold. If the audience are just idiots they'll probably miss the point anyway despite my attempt to connect via their favorite mechanisms of populism/racism and all that's left is me going "haha funny" which is only self serving, and that tips the scales away from continuing such endeavors in the future because the costs and benefits do not math out.

Congratulations on staying in it long enough to prove a valid counter, although points off for throwing every boring radical liberal buzzword at me prior. You at least did better than our seething Chaos.social friend who continues sending reports to my mailbox like they'll accomplish anything to this very minute.

@swagpuppy420 @suqdiq @7666 @fisk

just wanna jump in and say i've agreed with everything 7666 has said in this thread and i am none of the things you listed
not white, presently in the first world but not from here, not a leftist, do believe in class warfare (7666 hasnt said anything to imply he doesn't?)

you're saying a LOT of words based on a LOT of assumptions but all your words boil down to is "violence is the only answer, violent revolution is the only way to solve our problems"

glowie